Friday, July 12, 2013

MLB Ejection 093: Dan Bellino (4; Mike Matheny)

HP Umpire Dan Bellino ejected Cardinals Manager Mike Matheny following the final out of the Cardinals-Cubs game. With two out and two on, Cardinals batter Jon Jay hit a 1-2 fastball from Cubs pitcher Kevin Gregg to
Matheny yells at Bellino as Bell runs in and
Cubs security looks on in amazement.
left fielder Alfonso Soriano for the final out of the game. As Bellino walked past the first base dugout towards the umpire's dressing room, which at Wrigley Field, is accessed via the visitors' dugout, Matheny confronted Bellino about a strikeout to begin the inning. Though the call itself was not in question, Matheny apparently did not agree with Bellino's situation handling in removing his mask to warn batter Matt Adams after Adams argued the strike three call. At the time of the ejection, the game was over and the Cubs had won, 3-0.

This is Dan Bellino (2)'s fourth ejection of 2013.
Dan Bellino now has 12 points in the UEFL (10 + 2 + 0 = 12).
Crew Chief Wally Bell now has 4 points in the UEFL's Crew Division (3 Previous + 1 Irrecusable = 4).

This is the 93rd ejection of the 2013 MLB season.
This is the 43rd Manager ejection of 2013.
This the Cardinals' 3rd ejection of 2013, T-2nd in the NL Central (PIT 6; CHC, STL 3; MIL 2; CIN 0).
This is Mike Matheny's 2nd ejection of 2013 and first since June 2, 2013 (Clint Fagan; QOC = Y).
This is Dan Bellino's first ejection since May 24, 2013 (Brett Lawrie, John Gibbons; QOC = Y).
This is the first post-game ejection since June 5, 2013 (Tony Randazzo of Mike Aviles; QOC = U).

Wrap: St. Louis Cardinals vs. Chicago Cubs, 7/11/13
Video: Following the final out, Matheny confronts Bellino, is tossed and has to be restrained (STL)

49 comments :

Gil Imber said...

Can anyone post video of the Adams at bat in the 9th?

Gil Imber said...

Matheny is really an idiot, isn't he. Not a good idea to burn bridges and built your reputation by getting ejected after a game is over. He's lucky Bellino didn't toss the batter for arguing balls and strikes which by rule is an automatic ejection. Maybe next time Bellino will forgo the warning and just heave since that seems to be what Matheny wants

Gil Imber said...

And I thought Leyland's tantrum was bad...

Gil Imber said...

Good to see the double standard well in play.. I'll bet no umpire gets in trouble for physical contact once again. And you might want to try again on "arguing balls and strikes is an automatic ejection." It COULD be an automatic ejection. How often is it really? If you truly believe that is true, I've got some ocean-front property for sale in Kentucky..

Gil Imber said...

Matheny stuck up for his rookie player who was showed up by a hot head up with an agenda....who is born and lives in Chicago. Matheny had every right to make his point. The "idiot" might be in the mirror, Jimbo!

Gil Imber said...

Strike 3 was a good pitch. Cards, you are down 3 runs in the 9th...swing the bats! You aren't going to walk in a tie, well maybe against the Cubs you can, I digress. :)

Gil Imber said...

Here is the problem with a guys first managerial experience being in the big leagues. The end of the game is never the time to argue. He could very likely get suspended for this. To Mike: what are you talking about with physical contact?

Gil Imber said...

It was nice of Matheny to stick up for his guy but do it at the time of the incident. And you're likely imagining your agenda claim. These guys are Major League umpires and where they call home has zero influence over how they perform on the field.

Gil Imber said...

Matheny should be suspended for this but he wont be. I'd really like to see the at bat if possible. Anyone who really thinks Bellino actually gave a shit about the cubs winning is a moron. Umpires don't care about there home team winning. Especially if the team sucks.

Gil Imber said...

The umpires have to leave by the visitor's dugout -- for Matheny to use that opportunity to corner Bellino is a chicken-shit move. Good for him for not standing there and just taking it.

Gil Imber said...

These guys are both adults and did not handle it well (Matheny, Bellino). The only ones who seemed to handle it well were Bell and Knight. Don't even engage the manager at that point. Why bother?

Gil Imber said...

I don't think where he lives makes a difference. Most people from Chicago are smart enough NOT to root for the Cubs.

Gil Imber said...

So he was just supposed to sit there and take it in the ass from Matheny without doing anything? Its not his fault he has to leave the field through the visitor dugout. In my opinion Matheny is lower than a pebble of rabbit shit.

Gil Imber said...

I'd like to see the argument over the strike 3. I agree that Matheny deserves to be tossed for arguing, but just once I'd like to see an umpire completely ignore the tirade and keep walking. Don't fuel the dragon. And Matheny should have argued, if he wanted, RIGHT AFTER the play!



That being said, Matheny is certainly NOT the first manager to argue after a game, so this in no way influences what umpires think of him IMO.

Gil Imber said...

Yeah, I'd like to see that too.

Gil Imber said...

While your attempt at sarcasm is admirable (though it needs some work - Kentucky? Really? Come on! That state is a joke w/o the ocean shore quasi-allusion!), arguing balls and strikes IS AN EJECTIONABLE offense. It's not "is" thrown out or "could be" thrown out. Anything "could be" done, but it's only done when it's done (ask Kramer about "the levels").



And I certainly hope that no one gets into trouble for physical contact, since the only physical contact was umpires restraining Matheny (last time I checked that is perfectly acceptable). Jees. Sounds like some of us want MMA/UFC to combine with MLB....


"Well, you can see it here, Jim. When Matheny attempts to argue the strike 3 call, Wally Bell puts him into a sleeper chokehold and taps him out. Argue that, Mike!"

Gil Imber said...

They had a million great views on the post game show last night. Disappointing they're never up online.


Basically, Bellino pulled the Joe West move from earlier this year with his mask off and shooing Adams away. Adams wasn't being particularly belligerent. You could see Matheny on the top step of the dugout yelling.


Even Matheny said in the post game he had no idea about the pitch. He just didn't like Bellino showing up his player by removing his mask.



The pitch was good on the live pitch track deal. The ugly part was an awful frame job by the catcher. He yanked his glove down after he caught it. Looked like a Little League catcher.

Gil Imber said...

I did not see any attempts at anal intercourse, so you lost me with that analogy, sorry.

Gil Imber said...

"Are you a pirate?"

"Sort of."

Gil Imber said...

The umpires have to leave through the visitor's dugout. To block their exit to confront Bellino is little league horsesh*t. Bellino handled this perfectly.

Gil Imber said...

Sorry your team lost - But where the umpires live had nothing to do with it.

Anthony Rizzo with 3 RBI's did have something to do with the outcome.


Under your assumption only umpires who live, or grew up, in non-major cities can work in the MLB.


Maybe your question should be what did the rookie player say to the umpire to get the reaction we saw in the game.

Gil Imber said...

Here is the video from the Cubs feed. Nothing different than the Cards feed showed us.

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=28823001&game_pk=undefined

Gil Imber said...

Just curious on how you think Bellino should of handled it DD4D?

Gil Imber said...

Not to be 'that guy' but I'm pretty sure it was Mike DiMuro, not Knight. And I love Fonzie's reaction as well...nothing. Just walks calmly into the dugout behind Dan.

Gil Imber said...

Here's the video of the incident (at 1:59 mark): http://wapc.mlb.com/chc/play/?tcid=mm_chc_vid&c_id=chc&content_id=28827985

Gil Imber said...

I don't have nearly the experience that some of you guys have, I admit that. But in this case, I am not sure how that affects this (adversely or not). If it is during the game, it is one thing. But it is the end of the game. I'd just keep walking into the dugout because any discussion at that point is going to be heated (and erroneously attached to the results of the game, at that point). Of course, having said that, I can see how that might incite more aggression, so could you just say "I'm not going to discuss it right now."?

Of course, I've never done this level, so I don't know how feasible that is, I suppose. I've done all ages, but at the amateur level. I can't imagine dealing with managers whose lives depend on the outcomes of games and seasons.

My biggest concern is when they engage each other and then start to bandy back and forth...

Gil Imber said...

I agree blocking them is horseshit. That's what the cops are there for.



(Hopefully they are not Cardinals fans!) =_)

Gil Imber said...

DD4D - as an umpire or any official in any sport at any
level....after the game is done you just want to and need to get off the
field ASAP! The last thing you want is the losing coach or player riding you all the way off the field or even worse-- blocking your
exit. I agree with kickersrule, what are you supposed to do if you're
Bellino? just stand there and let Matheny yell at you for 20 minutes!?
If Matheny wants to argue during the game fine but not after the final
out...you had your chance...now let the umpires get off the field.

Gil Imber said...

Dan bellino needs to be suspended immediately for his actions towards Matt Adams. He called a close pitch a strike three, which is fine. However, the way he took off his mask and shoved/waved Adams back to his dugout with Adams only uttering a few complaints is totally unacceptable. Matheny had every right to get upset. Bellino acted extremely unprofessional and needs to be suspended

Gil Imber said...

Before we make any accusations about whether Bellino's actions were justified or not we must know exactly what those 'few complaints' were that Adams uttered. Bellino could have been doing the nice thing by shooing him back to the dugout instead of ejecting him. If the words uttered by Adams were vulgar and directed at Bellino or in any way derogatory toward the strike zone, Adams should be happy he only got shooed away. And anytime a player is barking at me, my mask is going to come off. They are speaking to me without a mask and it's only respectful of me to show them the same courtesy.

Gil Imber said...

As an umpire you are expected to have certain people disagreeing with you. What Adams did their is beyond mild compared to other MLB players, given the fact it was a close pitch anyways. You are an complete fool for suggesting Adams should be ejected. It's like saying a human be executed for stealing a penny from a cashier.

Gil Imber said...

Rule 9.01(b) Each umpire is the representative of the league and of professional baseball, and is authorized and required to enforce all of these rules. Each umpire has authority to order a player, coach, manager or club officer or employee to do or refrain from doing anything which affects the administering of these rules, and to enforce the prescribed penalties.


Rule 9.02(a) No player, manager, coach or substitute shall object to any such judgment decisions.


Looks to me like the umpire has the authority and is obliged to instruct a player to stop objecting to balls/strikes calls.

Gil Imber said...

Two quick points.

First, there should be some sort of disciplinary action when a manager or player takes advantage of the fact that the umpires have to leave through their dugout. This would have looked way worse if the umpires' accessed the field, say, behind home plate and Matheny came all the way out there to get in Bellino's face. He should gain no advantage because because of the placement of the tunnel.

Second, to those commenting on the contact, this is markedly different from when a manager or player bumps an umpire. In those situations, the contact is part of the aggressive act of arguing. Here, Wally and Mike are attempting to protect one of their own from a belligerent manager who is trying to block Dan's exit from the field. They shouldn't have to wait for Oquendo and the older Molina to come down and restrain Matheny. It's no wonder the younger Molina acted the way he did towards Clint Fagan. The apples don't fall far from the tree.

Gil Imber said...

I shall call you "Insane Conspiracy Theorist #3" and shall have many a laugh at your expense.

Gil Imber said...

First..you need to read my full comment by paying attention to the use of the words if and should before you reduce yourself to name calling...I stated we needed to now the full context of what Adams said before making any judgments. No one, without knowing exactly what he said, can say whether or not Bellino's actions were justified or if he should have done more or less.

Second..I'll refer you to Jim's reply to your response for the appropriate official rules which justify Bellino's actions regardless of what was said. According to the rules, umpires are NOT expected to have ANYONE verbally or physically disagree with their ball/strike calls.

Gil Imber said...

Have you ever umpired a game in your life?

Gil Imber said...

If that was Tom Hallion or even Balkin Bob, Adams would have been tossed by a blink of any eye. Watch the Manuel-Davidson exchange from last year. My favorite ejection of all time.

Davidson: "You think I wanted to block his ass, what the hell you yelling at?

Gil Imber said...

Quinn Wolcott just made a terrific call at they plate in Detroit. Replay clearly shows the runners hand touching home in between the catchers legs before any tag was applied. He also seemed to keep his composure while Washington was arguing. Hal Gibson and Wolcott have been awfully impressive so far. Hamari and Little have been solid as well.

Gil Imber said...

HP: Bellino

1B: DiMuro

2B: Bell

3B: Marquez



Not a big DiMuro fan, but he did the right thing here, protecting Matheny from Bellino. It wasn't a Francona-West time of situation.

Gil Imber said...

Haven't seen Gibson or Little, but Wolcott has been nails since being up.

Hamari is not MLB ready. His strike zone is not consistent with the league standard.

Gil Imber said...

Bucknor was hit in the helmet by a pitch in the Red Sox- Athletics game in Oakland and left the game. Miller puts the gear on behind the plate, with Tichenor at third and Hamari at first.

Gil Imber said...

Might as well suspend Country Joe forever to add up for all the times he has done it lol

Gil Imber said...

Bud Black just got tossed by Laz Diaz arguing an obstruction call on the shortstop, in which it appeared the baserunner was out of the baseline. Boxscore says Winters, but it was Diaz.

Gil Imber said...

I often wonder about that. Remember that these guys are human. But that being said, there is a difference between rooting for a team (and suspending that when umpiring) and supporting a team to the point of influencing a game. I agree with you that the latter is very unlikely!

Gil Imber said...

In baseball we do that. In soccer we stay to watch the handshake...I'll be honest, there have been times I linger, but I'm not doing anything "serious" like college or such, and I tend to know a lot of the coaches and players. We'll see if that changes as I take on more advanced assignments!

Gil Imber said...

...But this is different - this is professional sports. People say it is fundamentally the same, but it isn't. Way too much at stake... I never said to sit there and let Matheny bitch, BTW. Actually, it is contrary to that line of thought - I suggested he ignore it and simply go and change. If he touches you, it's his ass that gets into trouble. But I don't see the value add in stopping and even engaging him.

Gil Imber said...

Absolutely obstruction. He was not out of the baseline. There was no tag being attempted at the time.

Gil Imber said...

How did he corner him? Clearly appears he simply began yelling at umpire about his complaint but in no way was it cornering or blocking. Ump could have been professional by allowing to vent, which would seem logical thing to do. When has it been not allowed for a manager to air grievances? If he didn't want to listen could have just kept head straightforward and said nothing to escalate situation. Not allowing questioning of authority sounds pretty ridiculously fascist.

Gil Imber said...

I am an umpire as of now.

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