tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post4010715316158090971..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: Ejection 059: Tim McClelland (1)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-8282126469030980112012-06-07T15:38:14.627-07:002012-06-07T15:38:14.627-07:00That wasn't for @tmac that was for @JonTerry
...That wasn't for @tmac that was for @JonTerry<br /><br />sorry tmac.DR73noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-6294245712433412342012-06-07T15:37:16.697-07:002012-06-07T15:37:16.697-07:00@tmac
Please excuse me for not signing in and ru...@tmac<br /> <br />Please excuse me for not signing in and ruining your day. My post however, was not biased or anti-umpire, and certainly wasn't illiterate. I'm sorry you didn't know what you were talking about, but I don't see why I should back my point up now, as two other (horrifyingly enough) anonymous posters have done that for me.DR73noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-83526878626001800912012-06-06T13:08:46.404-07:002012-06-06T13:08:46.404-07:00Then why are you here?Then why are you here?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-64285757289355359362012-06-05T21:50:00.831-07:002012-06-05T21:50:00.831-07:00Kudos for the Texans announcing crew for being obj...Kudos for the Texans announcing crew for being objective about the play and as fair as they can be after watching the replays. It's a little depressing that the level-headed announcing stands out in this miserable season but credit where credit is due.OSheamanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10556690721834223102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-67043799743453581722012-06-05T07:25:11.544-07:002012-06-05T07:25:11.544-07:00In leagues where you can crash the catcher they le...In leagues where you can crash the catcher they leave their helmet on for plays at the plate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-12861934255683391442012-06-04T19:09:45.619-07:002012-06-04T19:09:45.619-07:00i've seen many plays at the plate at the profe...i've seen many plays at the plate at the professional level, and could probably count on one hand how many times the catch took his mask/helmet off.....so your theory of every 'coach' telling his players that might only apply to amature ball.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-12842508362016282732012-06-04T15:41:27.632-07:002012-06-04T15:41:27.632-07:00Hey moron who doesn't bother to sign in . . . ...Hey moron who doesn't bother to sign in . . . <br /><br />Every coach I know tells his players to lose the mask the second the ball is hit. Therefor, I don't know why Torrealba kept his mask on. If there is a different standard at the MLB level, then I wouldn't know that because I don't work there.<br /><br />Seems to me most of the people with no business here are the ANONYMOUS posters filling the board up with clearly biased, anti-umpire, and often illiterate posts.<br /><br />But please, criticize me more. I'm sure it made your day brighter.Jon Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536926849992961224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-79480751718707086012012-06-04T13:40:19.605-07:002012-06-04T13:40:19.605-07:00@ Jon Terry
If you honestly don't have any id...@ Jon Terry<br /><br />If you honestly don't have any idea why Torrealba left his mask on, you probably have no business critiquing MLB umpires.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-1290900221858099952012-06-04T13:19:04.808-07:002012-06-04T13:19:04.808-07:00Oh, where to start?
First, McClelland's posit...Oh, where to start?<br /><br />First, McClelland's position was not the best. He didn't move to a better angle quickly enough to be able to be set for the call. Doesn't make the call wrong, just harder to defend. His depth is likely a position to see both the catch and the tag-up, much like many of us who work two-man would have to. But he just didn't hurry to a better position.<br /><br />Second, I don't have a problem with his mechanic. Did he safe it multiple times? No. Did he jump in and point at the plate like many others? No. But his signal was well-timed and very clear. I saw no hesitation or unsureness.<br /><br />Third, I would believe the equipment angle. Torrealba clearly throws his mask down as he starts jumping. Not entirely sure why he wore it through the play, or why he needed it off to act like a child.<br /><br />Fourth, I'm sure the reason the umpires called time is because Washington ran onto the field. There isn't a video angle to support my contention, but there's no way they let the runners continue while a manager comes out and argues with an umpire. In my book, however, interrupting the play like this is one more reason to run Wash.<br /><br />I also can't find the baseball after Torrealba tosses his mask. Did he get it into his glove somehow? I don't see it anywhere on the ground.<br /><br />McClelland's demeanor is perfect. I wonder if he even raised his voice. His height and his reputation certainly help, but this is what umpires should look like. Maybe he needs to spend some time with Bob Davidson.Jon Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536926849992961224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-80115512292675951132012-06-04T09:44:47.474-07:002012-06-04T09:44:47.474-07:00Washington says McClelland told him the EJ was for...Washington says McClelland told him the EJ was for an equipment violation. Torrealba didn't even realize he had been tossed. I guess he was too busy jumping around like a 3-year old to see Tim toss him.Troynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-75375273744796007372012-06-04T08:59:18.938-07:002012-06-04T08:59:18.938-07:00I agree that it might be a good statement if the u...I agree that it might be a good statement if the umpires started to call everything strictly by the rule book. I can imagine there would be an incredible uproar, coming from many of the same people who gripe about some of the current lax rules enforcements. And that's not even mentioning all the ejections there would be.UmpsRulenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-52201726745689973092012-06-04T08:57:14.326-07:002012-06-04T08:57:14.326-07:00I understand why is it so important to keep manage...I understand why is it so important to keep managers and players in the game, but if they deserve to go they should go. I was shocked to hear Russell Martin call Laz a dick. By leaving him in the game and having the exchange go public makes it harder for me to do my job. There has to be standards and when they are not met an ejection must follow. I like that McClelland has a long fuse but I find it demeaning when posters applaud an umpire for not ejecting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-12295296557082636622012-06-04T08:03:01.946-07:002012-06-04T08:03:01.946-07:00@tmac: I agree with your assessment as well, as I ...@tmac: I agree with your assessment as well, as I thought much the same thing. I'm less worried about the distance back (although I do think it was a bit far), but from my stop/start review of the video, I think McClelland was blocked out of the play on the tag itself and by the time he was in a position to see it, it was already over.<br /><br />Specifically, if you use a start/stop on the video - on the back half of :08, you see McClelland still on to the left of the plate 3BLE. As the ball comes in he's still moving and hasn't seen the ball into the mitt. At :09 he clears the plate and is now to the right of 3BLE where he makes the call still on the move. I don't think he ever really sees this play fully.<br /><br />I like Tim Mc, have used his style and demeanor as a study guide, and I think the ejection was handled perfectly and well warranted. I also appreciate him keeping Washington in the game because I could see that being a short day for Washington as well. I'm a bit disappointed that he was on the move on this call and appeared to never stop moving, vs. an 'adjusted' look from a set position, but it is what it is.Dave Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11774011275701482305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-1918352322823280082012-06-04T02:31:43.033-07:002012-06-04T02:31:43.033-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Big Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10059152139707572715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-22890685095711934312012-06-04T02:24:11.876-07:002012-06-04T02:24:11.876-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Big Marchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10059152139707572715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-48873467868954946182012-06-04T00:51:03.944-07:002012-06-04T00:51:03.944-07:00@dr73
this is a very interesting point you make.....@dr73<br /><br />this is a very interesting point you make.. it is in my judgement from watching the multiple replays that i don't believe he could have seen the tag when applied.... I think he was a little too deep when he started to move into 3rd base line extended.... It's just a matter of opinion but watching where he was at the point of the tag and even being 6'6 may not have helped. <br /><br />@anon7:27.. i think the fact that he has swayed back now that he may go for 30 as you say is interesting.... It tells me he hasn't made up his mind to hang em up.... But it also tells me it is on his mind.tmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15801025280017627526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-59878335584856143822012-06-03T23:45:09.901-07:002012-06-03T23:45:09.901-07:00MLB should have suspended Torrealba when they had ...MLB should have suspended Torrealba when they had the chance this offseason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-6340209160693264202012-06-03T23:14:21.495-07:002012-06-03T23:14:21.495-07:00It seems like this year, when players feel a call ...It seems like this year, when players feel a call goes against them, they go from 0 to 60 in record time. Torrealba is an embarrassment to his team. That kind of reaction has no place in professional baseball. He should be suspended immediately. These managers need to realize their job is to get the player away first, then discuss the play with the umpire. If actions like this continue I would love to see the umpires band together and enforce what's written in the rule book.......no questioning judgement calls. Give it two days and lets see what happens. It would be kaos but damn would it be entertaining to watch!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-17748896622102209912012-06-03T22:57:17.756-07:002012-06-03T22:57:17.756-07:00@tmac
I agree with most of your post and granted ...@tmac<br /><br />I agree with most of your post and granted he was moving, but please explain to me how he had a poor angle. He WAS hird base line extended. A degree here or there is just nitpicking. Where he saw the play from doesn't appear to require x-ray vision at-all, especially keeping in mind that Tim is 6'6 and all.DR73noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-66569286885437792692012-06-03T19:27:40.692-07:002012-06-03T19:27:40.692-07:00I can say personally thay I know Tim and after las...I can say personally thay I know Tim and after last year he considered retiring after the end of last year because of his bad knees. But since the start of this year his knees have been feeling better and he is wanting to go at least one more year (2013) get 30 years in in the major.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-84438132658838912482012-06-03T17:23:36.093-07:002012-06-03T17:23:36.093-07:00I found this article, which states McClelland is c...I found this article, which states McClelland is considering retirement, but nothing official yet:<br /><br />http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20120508/SPORTS/120508030/Retirement-looming-Iowa-umpire-Tim-McClelland-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-43297114054993026062012-06-03T16:49:42.105-07:002012-06-03T16:49:42.105-07:00@tmac: Even if you think your post will not be po...@tmac: Even if you think your post will not be popular, you stated your opinion and you did so civilly.<br /><br />Anyone see any statements made by Torrealba about the play? I can't find any on MLB.com or espn.com I'd be interested to hear in his own words why he decided to implode after McClelland's call.SJRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-12241685404240497512012-06-03T12:20:45.760-07:002012-06-03T12:20:45.760-07:00Did McClelland already announce he will retire?Did McClelland already announce he will retire?UmpsRulenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-45660914354943854162012-06-03T11:57:16.976-07:002012-06-03T11:57:16.976-07:00tmac,
Do you have inside info that McClelland is ...tmac,<br /><br />Do you have inside info that McClelland is retiring? If he is retiring who do you think will get his spot as well as who do you think deserves the spot?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-63090676662820344142012-06-03T11:00:38.124-07:002012-06-03T11:00:38.124-07:00this is not going to be a popular post so don'...this is not going to be a popular post so don't read if you're blind to the facts of this play. <br /><br />1st off after watching this play a dozen or so times with slow motion it is nearly impossible to tell if A) the runner was tagged before he touched the plate B) the catcher had possession with the ball in his glove upon contacting the runner with the tag or C) whether McClellend saw any of it<br /><br />The video shows the umpire moving as the tag is being applied and it appears he may have been straightlined. He was still moving clearly processing then with excellent timing deduces a safe. Whether you think the call is right or wrong the FACT that he isn't still and gives himself a poor angle proves this call can be no better then a guess. There was just no way for McCellend to see where the tag was applied in relation to where the foot was unless he has X-ray vision.<br /><br />Here are two things i do know. The era of catchers not blocking the plate makes things so much more dificult for umpires. This should be a cut and dry call and there should be a collision in old school baseball. The catcher going to get the ball and everything exploding at the plate at the same time does NOT make this easy. Also it would have helped if McClellend could have read the play a little better and gotten to 3rd base extended in order to improve his angle. IN doing so you must read your catcher the throw. <br /><br />That all being said... Let's all cherish the final year of one of the great ones and hope he goes right into MLB to teach umpires how to handle situations and the philosophy of the strike zone!tmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15801025280017627526noreply@blogger.com