HP Umpire D.J. Reyburn ejected White Sox Manager Robin Ventura for arguing a ball call in the top of the 9th inning of the Blue Jays-White Sox game. With one out and none on, Blue Jays batter Jeff Mathis took a 0-0 fastball from White Sox pitcher Hector Santiago for a called first ball. Replays indicate the pitch was located waist high and inside (px of -.984), the call was correct. There were no callable pitches thrown to the preceding batter, Omar Vizquel. At the time of the ejection, the Blue Jays were leading, 11-9. The Blue Jays ultimately won the contest, 11-9.
This is D.J. Reyburn (70)'s third ejection of 2012.
D.J. Reyburn now has 1 point in the UEFL (-4 Previous + 3 AAA + 2 Correct Call = 1).
Crew Chief Derryl Cousins now has 2 points in the Crew Division (1 Previous + 1 Correct Call = 2).
This is the 86th ejection of 2012.
This is the 44th Manager ejection of 2012.
This is the 44th Manager ejection of 2012.
This is Robin Ventura's first ejection since May 30 (Mark Wegner; QOC = Irrecusable).
This is D.J. Reyburn's first ejection since June 4 (Don Mattingly, Trey Hillman; QOC = Incorrect).
This is the White Sox's 5th ejection of 2012, T-second in the AL Central (DET 7; CLE 5; MIN 4; KC 3).
Video: Reyburn tosses Ventura for arguing strike zone, Hawk Harrelson accuses umpires of being "brutal"
Pitch f/x courtesy Brooks Baseball
Pitch f/x courtesy Brooks Baseball
Let it be known that if Hawk has ever apologized to you in his life, he didn't mean it. What a joke.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, someone needs to forward Reyburn's plot from this game to these two numbskulls broadcasting this game. It doesn't matter if umpires are right or wrong, announcers and fans are still going to act like petulant children, so screw them.
ReplyDeleteIn the last half inning there were some pitches that I thought were balls called strikes for Toronto, and one was a third strike. (I'm a Jays fan)
ReplyDeleteReyburn's chart -- http://bit.ly/NSPHEf
ReplyDeleteYou'll notice, that Toronto had far more pitches off the plate inside called strikes -- so, Mr. Harrelson, you are indeed correct. That borderline 'second strike zone' went in your favor.
ReplyDeleteI love the way they show the side angle replay, at the end of the clip, which doesn't show how far inside the pitch was, and then they act like that replay somehow proves something. That's some brutal commentary, there's no question about it.
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Anybody I've ever dealt with from Chicago on a baseball field has been well, well above average baseball I.Q. These are good, smart fans. It's shocking that Harrelson is on T.V., I don't think the Sox know their fans at all.
ReplyDelete(best fans hands down are St.Louis fans, super baseball I.Q. in that stadium. I'm 500 miles from both of those cities)
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What the hell is this, the Joe West fan club?
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ReplyDeleteMy Ejection!!!!!
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ReplyDelete^? no fun^ http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=11687941&query=%26game_pk%3D265838
ReplyDeleteEd hickox missed this one got caught up in yankee fever yankee land
Go have some turkey, duck, and chicken.
ReplyDeleteEjectionsTampa Bay Devil Rays pitcher Lance Carter ejected by HP umpire Ted Barrett. (7th); Tampa Bay Devil Rays unknown 407376 ejected by HP umpire Ted Barrett. (7th); Boston Red Sox Manager Terry Francona ejected by HP umpire Ted Barrett. (7th); Tampa Bay Devil Rays Manager Lou Piniella ejected by HP umpire Ted Barrett. (7th); Boston Red Sox pitcher Bronson Arroyo ejected by HP umpire Ted Barrett. (7th); Boston Red Sox right fielder Trot Nixon ejected by HP umpire Ted Barrett. (7th).
ReplyDeleteUmpires: HP: Ted Barrett. 1B: Tom Hallion. 2B: Rick Reed. 3B: Terry Craft.
I know people have been saying the Anonymous comments have been getting worse, but this is just ridiculous.
ReplyDeleteI watched most of this game and then I went back and looked at the Mattingly ejection earlier in the year. DJ Rayburn needs to work on his strike zone. The pitch that Ventura got thrown out on was clearly a ball, however, the inning prior and the rest of the game was pretty brutal. Personally, I think Mathis was doing a nice job framing pitches yesterday. However, there were several low pitches that Mathis pulled up that no umpire will call for a strike....but Rayburn was calling those strikes. Then if you look at the Mattingly ejection it's the same thing....a low pitch pulled up into the strike zone for a strike.
ReplyDeleteDJ has to be better than this. Maybe he needs a break from MLB games. If not, and he keeps this up, this won't be the last time you see someone getting tossed by him this year.
@Anon, the chart was filthy.
ReplyDeleteDid you look at the chart, Anon 5:22AM? Reyburn had a great game.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure at this point if it possible for me to lose any more respect for Harrelson's broadcasting "abilities." Even if there is some validity to what he said, at this point he won't get the benefit of the doubt. Hawk, you have completely blown your credibility. Good for you, good for you.
ReplyDeleteDJ Reyburn needs some conflict management training. When an umpire steps toward the dugout and yells "WHAT'D YOU SAY?!?," don't be surprised if the manager tells you what he said and then some. Note that Ventura was leaning on the rail like everyone else until Reyburn stepped toward him and tried to show him up.
ReplyDeleteUmpires should not be permitted to engage a manager in an argument from the dugout, and then toss him because he responds.
It looked doubly bad in this case, as Reyburn walked toward the larger Ventura, started arguing aggressively, got shouted down and had to retreat.
Ventura should have gotten himself tossed during the 8th when Konerko and Rios both had balls pulled back into the zone by Mathis when the Jays were in trouble. Obviously the pitch that set off the ejection was well inside, but when you add in the Mattingly game and Papelbon's media blowup, it's safe to say Reyburn needs some work on the low pitch.
ReplyDeleteNot a regular White Sox follower, but what was Ventura doing starting Axlerod on 3 days rest and skipping Sale's regular start? If it was just so he could pitch in the all-star game, that is incredibly stupid. Definitely cost them the win since I could hit Axlerod.
Am I missing something here? This ball/strike plot looks very good. He is rather generous on both corners, but it seems very consistent.
ReplyDelete@ Pete
ReplyDeleteI doubt it. This is probably just another edition of the Hawk Harrelson show.
@Curt
ReplyDeleteHe didnt yell out "what did you say" he yelled out "how do you know" uless i missed the what you say. maybe he said both.
It was the timing more than anything. Reyburn had a real bad bottom of the 8th against Chicago's 3-4-5 hitters where he missed pitches early in the count on all three. Spread those out over the game and it's barely noticeable. Put them in the bottom of the 8th in a high scoring 2-run game with a runner on base and it's easy to see why Ventura was on the edge. ...and Harrelson is an idiot.
ReplyDeleteI would also point out that Reyburn's demeanor was the same with Mattingly back on June 4, when he tossed a coach for complaining from the dugout. Mattingly came out and Reyburn tossed him with a little dismissive flick. Mattingly ripped Reyburn a new one, like a father chewing a kid's butt for doing something stupid. Reyburn got this sad look on his face and stared at Big Daddy Derryl to come help.
ReplyDeleteSimilar ill-temper with McGehee on 9/7/11. He tosses McGehee, then starts trash talking as he quickly puts some distance between himself and McGehee.
4/28/10: Reyburn tosses Ryan Church for disputing the strike zone, even though Church walked directly toward the dugout, never stopped walking, and never even turned around toward Reyburn. Same game he tosses Andy LaRoche for throwing his bat directly to the ground. Once again he had some little comment to make to LaRoche with that smug look on his face as he ran away.
Reyburn's demeanor suggests to me that the little feller either (1) has incredibly thin skin, (2) likes to talk a little trash to players and managers that are bigger than he is (which is pretty much everyone on the field), and/or (3) enjoys his authority to compensate for other shortcomings.
Sooner or later, there will be an incident--a real one--involving Mr. Reyburn.
Anon 10:27, I will take your word for it, as my speakers suck.
ReplyDeleteIt seems like "How do you know?" sounds more confrontational than "what did you say?" No wonder Ventura got pissed.
@ Curt Crowley
ReplyDeleteAnd you didn't even mention the incidents with Joey Votto and with Jose Offerman. I'm not sure he's as bad as you're making him sound, but I don't think Reyburn is big league material, at least not yet.
Interesting fact, this was Reyburn's first career ejection of a member of an AL team. What an odd stat. The retrosheet has obviously not updated his 3 ejections this year, but the first two were Don Mattingly and Tret Hillman both members of the Dodgers as most of you already knew.
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i'm on the fence about DJ as an MLB umpire but if he continues to call balls and stikes this well and if MLB doesn't like his situation handling he might become the next Matt Hallowell... What i do find interesting is some people that come on as anon and say things like... "I'm a blue Jays fan and Reyburn favored us".... Spare me!! "I'm an umpire but all umpires suck..... so i can say that" is non believeable Fox News Herman Cain BS...
ReplyDeleteBack on topic: I didn't see the problem with this particular situation. What i didn't like was that a MILB call up lost his poise during the situation and may have escalated it more while Ventura was on the field. It seems to me Ventura is mostly mild mannered and respectful. He has a body of work of over 2000 games as a player and only four ejections (one for fighting)... Seems to me DJ could have been slightly more respectful.
@ tmac
ReplyDeleteDon't know much about Hollowell. What exactly is the reference about?
I was at the game and sitting up the 1st base side so I had a good view of the situation. Obviously can't make any judgments on the pitches in question due to my viewing angle. Ventura and a few other coaches were riding Reyburn pretty hard from the 7th inning on. Konerko had a called strike in the 8th inning that caused the whole bench to erupt. From that point on it was a toxic situation. Rios had a questionable called strike right after and Reyburn could have easily caused a confrontation with anyone on the bench if he wanted right then. I don't know why Reyburn waited until the next half-inning to do so, but I'm fairly certain Ventura was trying to get tossed. I don't think Reyburn can really be blamed for throwing him out, although had he done so the previous inning, I bet it would have been classified as an incorrect call.
ReplyDeleteThe chart doesn't seem to reflect the general media opinion of Reyburn's performance. I wonder if the WGN pitch tracker was slightly off, since I'm sure that's what they were paying attention to on the close pitches.
@ Umps rule
ReplyDeleteHollowell was a virtual lock to be a full-time umpire but he struggled in the steroid era with handled some of the roided guys
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Take a look at the people he threw out in 2003.... That being said.... he was a well respected ball/strike umpire who did an excellent job by most accounts good enough to basicly be up for 2 1/2 years straight until tough situations began to arise and MLB didn't think he was able to handle them good enough to warrent a full-time slot.. that coupled with the returns of Hallion, Davidson and Hollowell was out of a job. He's probably the best umpire many of you have never heard of... And definitely one of the best twenty ball-strike umpires in the world.... But alas it's not always about judgement sometimes it's about dealing with people. I remember one year I had 5 ejections in a season and 4 in the same game.... That stuff happens.... With the wrong supervisor you can be out on your butt in no time!!
@ tmac
ReplyDeleteThanks for the explanation. 14 ejections in 2003, that is a lot! And it looks like only two were for fighting.
Unless any of you have called pitches in professional baseball you have no clue....
ReplyDeleteYeah. What he said.
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ReplyDeleteHey shooter, is that you?? VL for life, remember?
I don't see any problem with how Reyburn handled this situation or how he has handled others. Ventura knows what will get him dumped, and he did it. Reyburn went a little old school when Ventura came out, something you don't see a lot of anymore, especially from the younger umpires.
ReplyDeleteThe posts about his zone being bad are all too predictable, just like I said. All of these morons want to use charts or computers, until an umpire's zone is confirmed to be very good for a game, then he is horsesh*t all of a sudden. I really wish some of you would pick a side and stick with it.
In other news, Curt Crowley still doesn't have a clue.
ReplyDeleteDoes an umpire warning a manager to quit arguing balls and strikes count as "Engaging them in the dugout"? So with your logic, if a manager screams at the plate umpire about a pitch, the umpire turns and tells him to knock it off, the manager keeps going and gets tossed....that is the umpire's fault? Even though balls and strikes are not up for discussion?
I'm assuming Ventura yelled about the pitch being a strike, and Reyburn responded with "How do you know?", because well, Ventura doesn't know since he can't see the inside/outside parts of the zone.
Amen brother. Amen.
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ReplyDeleteTmac,
ReplyDeleteAs a former MiLB umpire and one who knows Hollowell personally, the reason he is out of a job is his attitude and clearly not his ability. Baiting Ortiz, staring at an elderly man being beaten in the 1st base coaches box in Chicago and being an all around jerk had a lot to do with it.
"the umpire turns and tells him to knock it off,...."
ReplyDeleteThat is not what happened in this situation, is it? Get back to me when you some relevant argument in response to my comment.
Apparently you do not understand the difference between telling a manager to stop arguing balls/strikes, and engaging in conduct and making statements that are certain to escalate/continue the argument.
I do not fault you for lacking the intellectual capacity to recognize the difference between those two actions, but do suggest that you lay off the "doesn't have a clue" remarks.
Curt:
ReplyDeleteThere is a difference in those two actions, yes. Why didn't Ventura just answer the question though? Reyburn asked "How do you know?", so why didn't Ventura just tell him without getting tossed? If Ventura is good enough to know that that pitch was supposedly a strike (Which it wasn't), I guess he should be able to explain how he came to that conclusion.
Zac, you might want to look into DJ Reyburn's prior confrontations before you challenge the notion that he gets his feelings hurt easily.
ReplyDeleteGo back and look at the videos of the incidents I referenced.
Umpsrule pointed out that I omitted the Votto and Offerman incidents. Suggest you go back and look at those too, then come back and challenge my assessment.
Here's a clue: Offerman didn't take a swing at "Daniel" Reyburn because he didn't like his strike zone. It was because of some little insulting comment that "Daniel" made that escalated the argument. Offerman was wrong, but I'm citing this incident as an indication that your Saint "Daniel" intentionally does and says things that escalate arguments. And to make it worse, he does it in a sneaky little way that makes it look like he's just innocent little Daniel getting picked on by the big bad managers and players.
It is also evidence that he is a drama queen. Offerman's "punch" never touched Daniel, but he went down like he'd been hit by Mike Tyson.
Footnote: All references to "Daniel" Reyburn refer to Reyburn's time in the minor leagues, where he was known as "Daniel Reyburn." Upon reaching MLB, he apparently adopted the stage name "DJ" Reyburn.
@ anon 4:26... i guess we are in agreement about his abililty and poor situational skills.. thanks for having my back :)
ReplyDeleteTotally forgot about the Gamboa Incident... how our memories fade!!
Curt:
ReplyDelete- Mattingly ejection: The "dismissive flick" was an ejection mechanic. Sorry you get your feelings hurt so easily. The camera barely shows Reyburn's face, so your claim about his "sad face" is a lie, as is your claim about him staring at Cousins to come help. Cousins playing rodeo clown is standard procedure for an ejection. Reyburn didn't react after the ejection when Mattingly was ripping on him. He stood there and didn't respond. Another case of you guys wanting it both ways. If DJ had went back at Mattingly after the ejection, you would be telling us what a hot temper he has. Make up your mind.
- McGehee ejection: McGehee flips his bat, says something to Reyburn as he turns around, then gestures with his hands. I don't know how much easier it can get. He keeps blasting Reyburn as Reyburn is walking away, so Reyburn responds with one sentence. I don't know how that is "trash talk". Right after it happened Roenicke is out there, so I don't know how Reyburn is still trash talking McGehee. Don't flip your bat, point at the ground, and say something that will get you tossed and you don't have to worry about the big bad umpire being mean to you.
- Church ejection: You have NO idea what Church said as he was walking away, and if you think you get free reign because you're walking toward the dugout, you don't know what you're talking about.
-LaRoche: LaRoche slams the bat down, pretty much automatic. After LaRoche puts his arms up as if to ask why he was ejected, Reyburn clearly tells him "You threw your bat down". Looks like he's just answering a question to me.
- Votto: Maybe Votto should have shut up while he was standing there running his mouth and he wouldn't have been ejected. The announcers claiming that there was not "Anything going on an home plate" are naive at best. Votto is clearly saying something, and Reyburn is responding. (I guess that's not okay with you though, the umpire is supposed to stand there and take it) Votto got to the end of the rope and Reyburn had heard enough. I don't see the problem here. As for Reyburn talking back to him, every other MLB umpire does the same thing.
Seems to me you have an ax to grind with Reyburn, with the whole thing about his "smug" look, talking about his height, and acting like his first name matters.
Zac:
ReplyDelete1:02 to 1:10 little Dannie's face is visible. It's the same period of time he was staring at Cousins. Yet, my claim is a "lie?" You're an idiot.
Mattingly never should have been ejected in the first place. After he was ejected and had turned to walk away, Little Dannie said something else that caused Mattingly to turn around, come back and school him some more.
Do you seriously believe that referring to a person's demeanor as "smug" indicates an "ax to grind?" Seriously? His demeanor *is* smug, and that is a poor quality for an umpire.
His height is relevant, as it appears he likes to start fights he cannot finish, and trash talk as he puts distance between himself and players/managers who tower over him. Some might call this "short man's syndrome." I don't call it that, but some people might.
As far as his first name goes, the point is that the boy might be a little bit star struck and enjoying his time in the limelight.
You can defend him all you want, but he is getting into similar confrontations with too many people with varied temperments. At some point, you have to ask are all these people wrong, and Little Dannie right? What is the common denominator in these confrontations?
Good job, DJ! Like it or not, the strike zone is off limits. Ventura was just looking to complain since they were losing to the Blue Jays.
ReplyDeleteHawk Harrelson is a disgrace to the game of baseball. Someone needs to replace that old fart!
Curt, I worked with DJ in the minor leagues. He's always gone by DJ. The name I go by and the name they put in the boxscores was never the same. Obviously they went by DJ's name on his birth certificate, but everyone calls him DJ. Just so you know-it's been DJ since I met him in 2001-DJ. That's right, DJ.
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ReplyDeleteYou're way out of your element. Just stop. Your comments are the same for every ejection and while I admire your progressive outlook, frankly you talk from your ass. I love your little fantasy world, but sorry bud, you don't begin to have the first clue of how situations go in professional baseball. Don't criticize those who do.
Curt Crowley watches too much baseball from his living room. He pretends that he gets the ejection reports sent to him at home and acts like he knows everything that was said. Three things Mr. Crowley. 1. I spent six years in the minors with DJ and that's all he's ever gone by. 2. There's more to on field situations than body language. 3. Stop acting like a Biff Tannen. Hasn't anyone told you that bullying isn't cool anymore.
ReplyDeleteAnon @5:41, my "comments are the same for every ejection?". Really? Are you intentionally being dishonest, or are you exaggerating like those managers do when they say an umpire had a "bad night behind the plate?"
ReplyDeleteLook, this isn't one of your ejection reports. There's no need to lie here.
@8:01, how typical of you to call me a bully. I didn't respond to anyone with hostility until Zac piped up and commented that I "didn't have a clue."
ReplyDeleteHe makes a provoking comment, I respond, and you say I'm the bully. Interesting. Not surprising that you're defending DJ aka Daniel aka Little Dannie.
Birds of a feather.
tmac...yup we agree...yeah that was Hollowell standing there doing nothing in Chicago...Kellogg took some flack this year for tackling the fan that ran on the field but I have way more respect for him than Matt.
ReplyDeleteDude this the same ump that took a dive when j. Offerman pretended to hit him????? ROTFLMAO.
ReplyDeleteHow did that punk get to MLB. Daddy must be a ump.
Curt,
ReplyDeleteGenerally I like your comments. They are a nice counterbalance to the other regulars on this site who defend the umpire in every situation, no matter how ridiculous it requires them to sound when doing so.
But your tirades about DJ Reyburn--name calling included--seem a bit out there. You seem to have many scores to settle with an umpire who has--what?--200 MLB games on his resume? What did this man do to upset you so much?
FWIW, I know two guys who served as instructors with Reyburn at the Evans academy. They've always referred to him as "DJ" or just "Deej".
Curt:
ReplyDelete1. Who cares even if he was looking at Cousins? We're indicting umpires now because of where they're looking?
2. Why should Mattingly not have been ejected? He was arguing balls and strikes.
3. You look like the idiot now since it looks like you're little vendetta is backfiring. ("Danny")
Also Curt, what "fights" did Reyburn start? Please elaborate, and ejecting someone for arguing balls and strikes is not starting a fight.
ReplyDeleteAlso tell us why it is a bad thing to put distance between yourself and an argumentative player or manager. If he didn't get away from them and screamed in their face, you would still be blaming him. Which is it?
Double standards abound.
Zac you don't get it and you never will because you're an apologist.
ReplyDeleteIt's not that Daniel walks away. It's that he has some little comment to make as he starts walking away. The comment sets off the manager or player, but it makes it look like they are chasing him. Daniel does this intentionally to make himself look like the victim and make the manager or player look bad. I don't criticize him for walking away. I criticize him for baiting as he does it.
Same thing with Offerman. Remember that? Daniel dramatically falls straight to the ground like Offerman knocked his lights out. Only one problem: OFFERMAN NEVER TOUCHED HIM.
As an aside, you know what set Offerman off? You guessed it. Daniel's mouth.
I don't care for Daniel because he is an actor and a drama queen. And a dishonest one at that.