tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post326317457862613660..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: Ejections: Jeff Nelson (3)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-12681215734445183102011-06-25T15:56:56.337-07:002011-06-25T15:56:56.337-07:00The fact that Estabrook is a AAA Fill In, Nelson w...The fact that Estabrook is a AAA Fill In, Nelson wanted to move in right away to discuss it... if that was Tschida who made that call, Nelson would have probably not been so agressive innitiating the conference. I think he may have gone off Konerko's reaction... who is one of those guys that if he complains, you may have screwed something up.<br /><br />Regardless, it was a bastard of a call because having to watch for pulled foot & swipe tag very close to each other. Personally, the fact that Estabrooke ruled an out means he must have seen some type of tag... atleast possibly getting the pant leg. On this type of play (out to safe call), at that base (1B) & at this level (MLB - 4 man crew), I think they took the smelly end of the stick to OVERTURN an out call.<br /><br />If that was Tschida who made the OUT call, he would not have asked for help and they probably never get together. If Tschida (the CC) would have positioned himself as well as Estabrook did, then he would have told Guillen that he had a great look at the play and NOT going for help... which a lot of guys still subscribe to this thought for plays at 1B in a 4 man system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-4059155931027821912011-06-25T11:37:06.389-07:002011-06-25T11:37:06.389-07:00It's a shame you guys couldn't hear the So...It's a shame you guys couldn't hear the Sox broadcast.... If you think the Nats cast was funny.... WOW! Hearing Hawk say, "It looks like he missed him, but you can't tell" half a dozen times is priceless. <br /><br />I might also be the only guy who believes this is nearly an impossible situation for Nelson. A young umpire who may or may not be MLB ready who has struggled with situations. And it's clear to Nelson that the call was missed. Estabrook just didn't read the throw properly which is why he could not see the tag/no tag<br /><br />This is sticky for lots of reasons. <br /><br />Also i imagine a suspension is coming for McClaren, unless MLB now allows managers to make contact with umpires hats with their hands while flailing wildly.tmacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-30423631943801379262011-06-25T08:32:54.695-07:002011-06-25T08:32:54.695-07:00Anonymous from 5:45 am has absolutely no idea what...Anonymous from 5:45 am has absolutely no idea what they are talking about. The HP umpire certainly can get the crew together if he feels that he has information that the 1B umpire does not. So in the interest of making the correct call, they can get together and decide, using all the information available to all of them collectively, if they want to uphold the call or overturn it. What they did was avoid an argument with Ozzie ON TOP of the outburst by the Nationals.<br /><br />Jeff Nelson was not 90 feet away. The proper mechanic for the HP Umpire is to trail the runner up the first base line in order to see swipe tags and pulled feet. Nelson was probably about 45 feet or less away from the play, which is where he was supposed to be and could see the play fine and in this case, better than the 1B umpire.<br /><br />It was a great job by all of them to get the call right and keep everyone from turning it into an all out sh*tfest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-77473446083586606762011-06-25T07:27:49.776-07:002011-06-25T07:27:49.776-07:00The safe call was the correct call,but unless I mi...The safe call was the correct call,but unless I missed Estabrook signal to get together,it seemed like Nelson was the one who said "get together." I'm not a professional ump by any means,but I am a certified umpire and was taught that unless your partner ASKS you don't say a word. IF infact Nelson did say "get together" he would be going against what umpires are taught to do.Take for what it is,given I am not a professional MLB umpire.<br /><br />It was great hustle by Nelson and from Estabrooks view I could see why the out call was made. Bill Welke did go a good job controlling the dugout.SPballsandstrikesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-5562230405740275372011-06-25T05:45:04.384-07:002011-06-25T05:45:04.384-07:00The umpires might have changed the call and might ...The umpires might have changed the call and might have gotten it correct, but it is still impossible to see either way in the video tape. The INCORRECT decision is the home plate umpire overruling the first base umpire and calling for a conference, if the first base umpire wants help he must ask for it. 2, who the hell has the eyesight to overturn that call, everyone else is at least 90 feet away, and the tag was missed by an inch if that. The umpires might have gotten the call right, but they had absolutely no clue whether they did or notAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-18067576881470509302011-06-25T05:11:03.638-07:002011-06-25T05:11:03.638-07:00Looks like upon further review the call should sta...Looks like upon further review the call should stand as safe. Unless there is another video, or snap shop, or photographers picture, with conclusive evidence to disprove this call one way or the other, this is a call that should go down as correct, whichever way the umpires rule as to a tag or no tag. This is just like Tumpanes call at the plate as to whether the tag got the bottom sole of the shoe on the swipe tag. If any other conclusive ruling from this video comes up on this play, the people on this board who rule on these plays should easily be able to go to the umpire school and move into the Big Leagues very quickly if they so choose. They are wasting their time here if their judgment is that good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-89176706101584233052011-06-25T04:21:29.120-07:002011-06-25T04:21:29.120-07:00As you can see, Nelson was not just standing behin...As you can see, Nelson was not just standing behind HP as McClaren (I'm lip reading here) seems to contend, you can see his head at the bottom of the X-Mo Screen on the CWS Feed. Good hustle by Nelson,good call, and a good job of controlling the situation in the dugout by Bill Welke, it is amazing that this crew can withstand two ejections with out adding an interim crew chief while Tim Tscida is not with them...They have done a great job and are owed a lot of credit...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-12547221145082411502011-06-25T01:13:46.398-07:002011-06-25T01:13:46.398-07:00Unbelievable broadcast, if something is missed and...Unbelievable broadcast, if something is missed and goes against them they would say "they need to get together and get that right." Since something was changed and now goes against them they say "I can't believe the home plate umpire ran down there, got them together and changed a call on one of their own." Un-freaking-believable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-13608298597976478202011-06-24T23:19:24.125-07:002011-06-24T23:19:24.125-07:00A.P,
Before simply saying incorrect, notice when ...A.P,<br /><br />Before simply saying incorrect, notice when this post was written. The box score at the time listed Nelson as the ejector. Only after the conclusion of the game, was the box score updated. <br /><br />A write up will be made to show the change. <br /><br />Thank you.Jeremy Dirckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18377576945075992373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-39606948433883469872011-06-24T22:55:36.346-07:002011-06-24T22:55:36.346-07:00That's a tough call. I thought I saw what look...That's a tough call. I thought I saw what looked like Konerko was tagged on the leg. It sure looks like McLaren hit Estabrook in the face during the argument.thexfactor264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-66782940378619061592011-06-24T22:54:35.403-07:002011-06-24T22:54:35.403-07:00Incorrect. McLaren was thrown out by Mike Estabroo...Incorrect. McLaren was thrown out by Mike Estabrook.A.P.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03563252448552044006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-43753203272691585482011-06-24T22:15:21.436-07:002011-06-24T22:15:21.436-07:00What's funny is this will probably be the only...What's funny is this will probably be the only game that McLaren serves as interim manager, seeing as they hired Davey Johnson today.thexfactor264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-31955523639188607382011-06-24T20:45:38.825-07:002011-06-24T20:45:38.825-07:00At least the second ejection for Jerry Hairston Jr...At least the second ejection for Jerry Hairston Jr this season. Boy is on a roll.Jon Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536926849992961224noreply@blogger.com