tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post3360761083701213245..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: MLB Ejection 110: Jerry Layne (1; Mike Scioscia)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-81222301824191192522013-08-02T06:47:27.719-07:002013-08-02T06:47:27.719-07:00To me, this ejection is for arguing judgement call...To me, this ejection is for arguing judgement calls and being a stupid manager...not any magic words (although they were likely there). The play is a banger...a tie at best. When a fielder bobbles a ball or makes a throw that creates a tough call that should be routine, everyone above 13&U knows that the umpire is going to call the runner safe in that situation. If the defense makes a great play and it is just as close, umpires tend to reward great defense. Tie goes to the umpire is exactly correct. When I get a manager out on me on plays like this, I just tell them that they are yelling at the wrong guy. If they don't "get" it, they might not be there much longer.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-62212300514453859922013-08-01T11:52:38.938-07:002013-08-01T11:52:38.938-07:00Umpires are allowed to show up players and manager...Umpires are allowed to show up players and managers, but not the other way around?Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-46432000343224176052013-08-01T07:10:52.897-07:002013-08-01T07:10:52.897-07:00Yeah - totally agree RE: Sciossa - he is king rat ...Yeah - totally agree RE: Sciossa - he is king rat and someone who definitely doesn't deserve any extra length on the leash. Dont get me wrong, I think the EJ was classic...just wanted to get thoughts on the "personalness" of what he said.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-60795145308762804852013-08-01T06:35:01.794-07:002013-08-01T06:35:01.794-07:00ABSOLUTELY - there is a BIG difference between ...ABSOLUTELY - there is a BIG difference between 'You f***ing missed it' and 'You f***ed up' - the latter is much more personal and direct, And when you factor in that this was a real banger that was extremely close, that it was only the second inning and other stuff like Sciosia's rep, it was a no brainer EJ. <br /><br /><br />Layne is not exactly a hot headed ump - him and Davis might have the least ejections in the last five years, so when you compare his rep against Sciosia's, I think it is pretty clear what happened was enough.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-89051250229293625782013-08-01T01:34:30.542-07:002013-08-01T01:34:30.542-07:00In re: 110 Layne 1;
After review, the Original Ru...In re: 110 Layne 1;<br /><br />After review, the Original Ruling has been affirmed in a 5-0-0 decision by the UEFL Appeals Board. Three Appeals Board members voted to confirm the Original Ruling while two elected to uphold it.<br /><br />Majority Opinion, Turducken:<br />Confirm. Thud and pop. Glove doesn't pop [secure possession] before the BR's foot connects with the base.<br /><br />Concurring Opinion, RichMSN:<br />The BR was safe, though. Confirm.<br /><br />Concurring Opinion, BT_Blue:<br />Watching it on replay from one side looks like an out. From the other looks like safe. Thus I will chose to Uphold the original call of one Jerry "Silence is Golden" Layne.<br /><br />Therefore, the Board affirms the Original Ruling.<br /><br />Confirmed: RichMSN, yawetag, Turducken<br />Upheld: tmac, BT_Blue<br />Overturned: -<br />Deferred: -<br />Abstained: Gil (Posted Original Ruling), Jeremy (deployment)Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-11907569113282372432013-08-01T01:18:46.333-07:002013-08-01T01:18:46.333-07:00I'm guessing this will end up as an NEC since ...I'm guessing this will end up as an NEC since the ejection happened several pitches after the call.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-84419340792730731842013-08-01T00:24:34.144-07:002013-08-01T00:24:34.144-07:00There is a video posted, but it does not contain t...There is a video posted, but it does not contain the ejection or either of the calls, which is why I am not linking to it. Don't know if we will get more than that.<br /><br /><br />The video is Mattingly walking off the mound and on his way back to the dugout, he argues with Miller and then turns towards 3rd base. That is all we see.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-26992973293478130882013-07-31T23:25:40.954-07:002013-07-31T23:25:40.954-07:00Does l"you fu$ked up" really deserve an ...Does l"you fu$ked up" really deserve an automatic EJ??? Its really not all that different than "you fu$king missed it"... which is not considered "magic words" at the NCAA & PRO levels, . Now if he said "YOU'RE fu@ked up", I can understand the quick hook. For those of you that work higher level ball - what are your thoughts?Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-60860637707734749512013-07-31T23:01:13.640-07:002013-07-31T23:01:13.640-07:00http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130801&a...http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130801&content_id=55474114&vkey=news_la&c_id=la<br /><br /><br /><br />Don't know if were getting the videoLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-77758556614506053202013-07-31T22:54:14.100-07:002013-07-31T22:54:14.100-07:00I hope we have the vid? I hope we have the vid? Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-4300366124684704392013-07-31T22:05:00.325-07:002013-07-31T22:05:00.325-07:003B Umpire Bill Miller just chucked Don Mattingly f...3B Umpire Bill Miller just chucked Don Mattingly for arguing two previous check swing calls while making a pitching change.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-5694993747061324842013-07-31T20:57:12.241-07:002013-07-31T20:57:12.241-07:00On the very last replay they show press the play/p...On the very last replay they show press the play/pause button and go frame by frame. If you do this you will see what looks like a "snow cone" in the front of the glove. At that frame the ball is ENTERING the glove but hasn't hit the back of the glove yet. In this same frame the runners foot is on the bag.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-14284797288396156252013-07-31T20:50:04.245-07:002013-07-31T20:50:04.245-07:00On the Texas feed, you can clearly hear him say &q...On the Texas feed, you can clearly hear him say "You f***ed up!" Good night....Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-62277788789091500972013-07-31T17:48:58.479-07:002013-07-31T17:48:58.479-07:00Scioscia must have made a very magical statement r...Scioscia must have made a very magical statement right off the bat because this was the fastest hook I have ever seen.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-17715660413673512212013-07-31T13:35:03.284-07:002013-07-31T13:35:03.284-07:00I like it. It circumvents confrontational tactics...I like it. It circumvents confrontational tactics and pretty much nips any argument in the proverbial bud.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-32517911880745663412013-07-31T13:34:41.049-07:002013-07-31T13:34:41.049-07:00Mike, it's the second inning and it's a cl...Mike, it's the second inning and it's a close play. Your team needs you on the bench, not in the locker room.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-2259678478515944712013-07-31T13:03:03.049-07:002013-07-31T13:03:03.049-07:00Cooper didn't handle it properly. He didn'...Cooper didn't handle it properly. He didn't need to approach the mound in that fashion to give a warning.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-39235601156990472502013-07-31T11:19:22.785-07:002013-07-31T11:19:22.785-07:00What did Cooper do wrong? The pitcher was showing ...What did Cooper do wrong? The pitcher was showing him up by throwing his hands up in the air. I thought Cooper handled it properly. Gave him a stern warning. IF you let pitchers get away with that behavior, pack a lunch because you're in for a looooong day.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-44057661434048489522013-07-31T10:17:56.384-07:002013-07-31T10:17:56.384-07:00This is the second time Jerry Layne has given some...This is the second time Jerry Layne has given someone the silent treatment during an ejection argument (Bruce Bochy last year was the first). It seems to be pretty effective at having the manager out there for a very short time.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-36158936164937032702013-07-31T09:41:59.763-07:002013-07-31T09:41:59.763-07:00That comment was written in the English language.That comment was written in the English language.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-10966095274307586182013-07-31T07:24:21.566-07:002013-07-31T07:24:21.566-07:00You have the benefit of watching the replay multip...You have the benefit of watching the replay multiple times and you still got the call wrong. He was safe. Watch the video again until you see the foot hit the bag before the ball gets into the glove. The call was close but if its overturned to be incorrect I will not be in the UEFL next year.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-26294722744765497982013-07-31T06:27:43.377-07:002013-07-31T06:27:43.377-07:00He got the call at first base right. Regarding th...He got the call at first base right. Regarding the ejection, it would be wrong of us to pass judgment on the decision to eject Scioscia without first knowing what he said. If he was just arguing the call, that's one thing, but if he used any threats, profanity, or accusations (e.g. "Are you f@#$ing blind?" or, "You better reverse that now or I'll have your job,") then I could see the ejection as clearly warranted. I think the only people who know what he said are Scioscia, Layne, and those within earshot. I would love to hear a recording of this conversation or at least see Scioscia's lips move when he first opens his mouth. Too bad there isn't one.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-11782513370557558672013-07-31T04:23:25.949-07:002013-07-31T04:23:25.949-07:00Having the benefit of watching the play in slow mo...Having the benefit of watching the play in slow motion from multiple angles, I do think the ball hit the glove just a split second before the runners foot hit the bag. But I could definitely see the call going either way. Layne handled that about as well as you can as an umpire.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-79025134665575735462013-07-31T00:57:51.109-07:002013-07-31T00:57:51.109-07:00This ruling has been challenged and is under revie...This ruling has been challenged and is under review by the UEFL Appeals Board.<br /><br /><br />We actually do use the shorthand of "simple" vs. "complex" rulings in our Board discussions similar to how BillUnit has used it here - "simple" being a rudimentary judgment call - did the fielder beat the runner, did the ball hit the line, did the ball get trapped, etc. "Complex" for us stands for rule-oriented and also judgment calls that require a bit more extrapolation - fan interference runner placement, infield fly NCI vs NCC, etc.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-50235166158537516552013-07-31T00:22:30.042-07:002013-07-31T00:22:30.042-07:00On MLBN, they blurred out Scioscia's last word...On MLBN, they blurred out Scioscia's last words prior to the ejection.<br /><br />This seems like a really unnecessary situation to argue a call. Scioscia had to have intended to get thrown out the moment he left the dugout.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.com