tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post4006980657782835000..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: MLB Ejection 044: Mike Winters (1; Kevin Frandsen)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-2935755316484550822013-06-06T18:05:27.633-07:002013-06-06T18:05:27.633-07:00There are a couple of things I think about as I wa...There are a couple of things I think about as I watched the video (only once). First, broadcasters are idiots and they cause idiot fans (and idiot little league coaches/parents). There is absolutely no "definitely" when dealing with a checked swing. I would love to ask broadcasters after that kind of a comment to tell me what makes a checked swing definite...and from where their definition is based.<br /><br />Next is the ejection...slam dunk ejection. The slamming of the bat is an attempt to show up the umpire. Regardless of the showing up being intentional or unintentional that deserves an early shower at all levels of ball.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-44080703657229219472013-05-30T17:58:43.206-07:002013-05-30T17:58:43.206-07:00The ejection was for the spiked bat, he didn't...The ejection was for the spiked bat, he didn't actually argue the call. Equipment fine would have been enough for him throwing the bat. Oh well though, don't mind the ejection.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-25227575383215838792013-05-28T00:14:28.741-07:002013-05-28T00:14:28.741-07:00In re 044 Winters 1
After review, the Original Ru...In re 044 Winters 1<br /><br />After review, the Original Ruling has been affirmed in a 3-1-0 decision by the UEFL Appeals Board. Three Appeals Board members voted to confirm the Original Ruling and one elected to overturn it.<br /><br />Majority Opinion, BT_Blue:<br />Seeing as how the MLB rulebook does not give a ruling on how to judge a check swing. Is arbitrary as far as I can tell. In my opinion, Frandsen did indeed attempt to strike at the ball and thusly, the strike call was correct. So I will be voting to confirm Winters ruling (as well as his amazing stash).<br /><br />Dissenting Opinion, Turducken:<br />STRIKE (2.00(a)): A strike is a legal pitch when so called by the umpire, which is struck at by the batter and is missed. In this particular case, the umpire must determine whether the batter attempted to strike the pitch. To me, I use two methods in determining intent: wrists and plane of bat, with a greater emphasis on wrists. In this particular case [and in my discretion], Frandsen did not break his wrists while attempting to strike the pitch nor did his swing break the plane. I vote to overturn.<br /><br />Therefore, the Board affirms the Original Ruling.<br /><br />Confirmed: tmac, RichMSN, BT_Blue<br />Upheld: -<br />Overturned: Turducken<br />Abstained: Gil (posted Original Ruling), Jeremy (Deployment), yawetag (Vacation)Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-80828794787918608312013-05-27T15:13:28.078-07:002013-05-27T15:13:28.078-07:00don't agree with the call, but do agree with t...don't agree with the call, but do agree with the ejection because he looked at winters and then slammed the bat. that'll get you tossed pretty much everytime,Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-21022220978623273662013-05-27T06:00:33.484-07:002013-05-27T06:00:33.484-07:00I know what you meant. I was having a little fun w...I know what you meant. I was having a little fun with the semantics. Personally, I think he offered at the pitch, not because of where the bat was, but where his hands were.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-63392037417040354792013-05-27T05:14:39.056-07:002013-05-27T05:14:39.056-07:00I said I had him going 100%. My point is that ther...I said I had him going 100%. My point is that there is no way you can state that he missed that as a fact, which is what the broadcasters did.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-65521914478161295532013-05-27T01:20:02.487-07:002013-05-27T01:20:02.487-07:00He clearly attempted to swing at the ball. Good ca...He clearly attempted to swing at the ball. Good call by Winters and also a great stache he has growing. GREAT JOB!Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-89680047351014399132013-05-26T23:59:19.813-07:002013-05-26T23:59:19.813-07:00I withdraw my previous statement... just watched t...I withdraw my previous statement... just watched the video again, this time using the pause feature to slow it down, and it sure looks like a swing/attempt to strike the ball/offer at the pitch/whatever you want to call itLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-59293582086219937052013-05-26T21:22:12.334-07:002013-05-26T21:22:12.334-07:00He swung at that no question. Great call by Winter...He swung at that no question. Great call by Winters and horrible commentating by the Nationals Broadcasters.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-26012169363327321822013-05-26T17:07:14.470-07:002013-05-26T17:07:14.470-07:00I'll follow suit here (he did). But totally ag...I'll follow suit here (he did). But totally agree. Even if Winters was wrong (he wasnt) he is still so so right cause of the stash!Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-7281389803042992632013-05-26T17:00:34.767-07:002013-05-26T17:00:34.767-07:00I will wait to comment until the challenge: but ho...I will wait to comment until the challenge: but how great is Mike Winters's mustache? Shades of Bill Hohn's!Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-3889143159148954082013-05-26T16:20:42.818-07:002013-05-26T16:20:42.818-07:00I'd bang that 100% of the time. Look at the p...I'd bang that 100% of the time. Look at the position of Frandsen's hands on the offer.<br /><br /><br />Am I tipping my hand on the impending challenge? :)Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-16816066801228378202013-05-26T15:28:57.338-07:002013-05-26T15:28:57.338-07:00Challenge. I do not believe Frandsen offered at th...Challenge. I do not believe Frandsen offered at this pitch.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-31209601176250126582013-05-26T14:49:31.524-07:002013-05-26T14:49:31.524-07:00The question is not whether he swung or not, but r...The question is not whether he swung or not, but rather whether or not he attempted to strike the ball, or offered at the pitch.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-38113324158327797972013-05-26T14:13:25.648-07:002013-05-26T14:13:25.648-07:00If the batter went 100%, there wouldn't have b...If the batter went 100%, there wouldn't have been an argument...Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-50544863817359730722013-05-26T14:09:59.037-07:002013-05-26T14:09:59.037-07:00"Definitely did not"
I got him going ..."Definitely did not" <br /><br /><br />I got him going 100%. This is what makes me so mad about broadcasters. They have a responsibility to fill the viewer in on things they might not know, and now a million people at home are 100% sure that Winters missed that call, when he didn't. It's not fair to umpires or fans, or the game of baseball. I've seen far more broadcasters make comments they should be ashamed of than I've seen umpires make calls they should be ashamed of this season.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-8038897689919828712013-05-26T14:07:50.369-07:002013-05-26T14:07:50.369-07:00I agree, didn't look like a swing to meI agree, didn't look like a swing to meLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-211900490733221462013-05-26T14:05:40.895-07:002013-05-26T14:05:40.895-07:00How is that a correct call? It certainly didn'...How is that a correct call? It certainly didn't appear that he swung.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.com