tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post4501161821148248402..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: MLB Ejection 139: Brian O'Nora (1; Joe Girardi)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-38255004131154985332013-08-20T12:50:42.091-07:002013-08-20T12:50:42.091-07:00Girardi also saved his pitcher. With him already g...Girardi also saved his pitcher. With him already gone there was less chance of a retaliation. They wouldn't want to lose the acting manager after girardi went, especially against the soxLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-68641575487866738602013-08-20T10:03:20.226-07:002013-08-20T10:03:20.226-07:00Okay, but I don't know what the fuck you are t...Okay, but I don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Did you post under another name? If it was "softballump" I was not contesting what you said, simply how you said it. Re-read....Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-79349911782987751752013-08-20T07:38:17.399-07:002013-08-20T07:38:17.399-07:00I did? Where?I did? Where?Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-64607036304036842792013-08-20T06:41:13.728-07:002013-08-20T06:41:13.728-07:00Just cause i don't agree with you does not mea...Just cause i don't agree with you does not mean my opinion is not invalid.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-26398355514088987012013-08-20T06:39:59.539-07:002013-08-20T06:39:59.539-07:00like you know anything damn thing about umpiringlike you know anything damn thing about umpiringLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-91274433449934074242013-08-20T06:30:45.226-07:002013-08-20T06:30:45.226-07:00You forgot a d in the word and, can't get much...You forgot a d in the word and, can't get much simpler than that....Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-32745581448999544342013-08-19T23:25:32.655-07:002013-08-19T23:25:32.655-07:00It's only the top of the second so you don'...It's only the top of the second so you don't need a rally yet and there was no one at risk of being ejected.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-18043468806603277592013-08-19T22:11:29.223-07:002013-08-19T22:11:29.223-07:00Interesting reference. Here are the #s for game ou...Interesting reference. Here are the #s for game outcomes, since 2008.<br /><br /><br />Teams are 341-614 (.357) in ejection games (winning percentage derived from the team association of the ejected person).<br /><br /><br />Loss-to-Win record (since 2010): 15-86.<br />Record for ejections that occur during a tie (since 2010): 33-57 (.367)<br /><br /><br />Manager ejection record (since 2008): 174-286 (.378)Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-4579891597440516332013-08-19T21:46:23.260-07:002013-08-19T21:46:23.260-07:00Sometimes a manager getting ejected is a way to fi...Sometimes a manager getting ejected is a way to fire the team up and can occasionally result in a rally breaking out and a much needed. Other times a manager will get ejected in order to protect his player from getting ejected.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-53227798578212876002013-08-19T20:04:32.374-07:002013-08-19T20:04:32.374-07:00With a px 2.18 the third pitch was a bit more insi...With a px 2.18 the third pitch was a bit more inside than a standard inside pitch as a reference the first pitch was px 3.579, the second pitch was 1.692 (this is more of a standard inside pitch), and the fourth pitch was px 2.437. <br /><br /><br /><br />So, the third pitch in the at bat was relatively close to the pitch that hit him in terms of px values. The main difference is the first 3 pitches seemed to be aimed to take out A-Rod's knee/leg whereas the fourth pitch was more to ensure he accomplished what he failed to do with the the first 3 pitches. So while I agree the second pitch was more your standard inside pitch, I do feel the third was a bit more inside than a standard inside pitch. <br /><br /><br /><br />Also given it was A-Rod at the plate and taking into account how many players are mad at him I think it could have been established that he had a target on his back before the fourth pitch.<br /><br /><br />Anyway regardless of whether a warning should or should not have been issued before the pitch that hit him, I believe we can both agree that after the pitch hit him Dempster should have been ejected.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-4097319003967152442013-08-19T17:56:44.344-07:002013-08-19T17:56:44.344-07:00What I meant was that the only spot in that pitch ...What I meant was that the only spot in that pitch sequence where O'Nora could have done anything was that one that hit Rodriguez. You can't warn after a standard inside pitch like the second or third one were.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-90228455449259952312013-08-19T17:55:13.775-07:002013-08-19T17:55:13.775-07:00I'll never understand why it's better for ...I'll never understand why it's better for the manager to not be able to manage his team, which is what he gets paid for, for the good majority of the game.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-1357437308624678072013-08-19T17:53:25.130-07:002013-08-19T17:53:25.130-07:00heheheheheheLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-24675194230110078902013-08-19T17:13:52.822-07:002013-08-19T17:13:52.822-07:00Bill Miller has replaced Mark Wegner on Mike Winte...Bill Miller has replaced Mark Wegner on Mike Winter's crew, and it looks like Paul Emmel and Bob Davidson are on vacation.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-45410930327993898302013-08-19T11:37:29.865-07:002013-08-19T11:37:29.865-07:00I am sorry but this crew has had a HORRIBLE year:
...I am sorry but this crew has had a HORRIBLE year:<br /><br /><br />- Blowing the pitching change rule<br />- Bill Welke's blunders<br />- Blowing the forceplay rule that lead to a incorrect double play<br />- Adrian Johnson TWICE changing his call at second base<br />- The crew being horrendously underprepared for the Arod situation<br /><br /><br />Maybe Cubby wasn't ready to lead a crew...As much as we all love Cubby and Brian this has just been brutalLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-30255626186649252282013-08-19T09:59:33.083-07:002013-08-19T09:59:33.083-07:00I would suggest you watch the sequence of pitches ...I would suggest you watch the sequence of pitches again. Pitch 2 and Pitch 3 were called balls inside but neither were behind ARod. O'Nora couldn't warn Dempster after the first pitch. It was the first pitch of an at-bat in the second inning and no one knew that was going to happen. He couldn't warn during Pitch 2 or 3 because they weren't close. His only options were to do what he did, or eject Dempster and issue warnings. (Which I would have been fine with) Girardi still would have been pissed that the Yankees got a warning, but he probably would have stayed in the game.<br /><br /><br />I'm simply contending that O'Nora didn't handle this situation "horribly" as some people have said. Throwing situations are not cut and dry, black and white things. Even at the MLB level, not every umpire will handle them exactly the same.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-3740202515310491332013-08-19T09:52:08.945-07:002013-08-19T09:52:08.945-07:00No, I honestly did not understand that. I can han...No, I honestly did not understand that. I can handle misspelled words and punctuation errors, but that post is just hard to read at all.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-73134791355674789892013-08-19T09:32:50.493-07:002013-08-19T09:32:50.493-07:00Actually, I would recommend a semi-colon here. T...Actually, I would recommend a semi-colon here. There are two independent clauses separated via train of thought. And there is no coordinating conjunction (like "and" or "but"). And theoretically, it would be a period or exclamation point after "post". <br /><br /><br /><br />And yes, I know, in theory I should put the period within the quotes. However, I have disagreed with that since taking advanced grammar in college, and think it is silly to do that unless you're actually penning a direct quote or executing conversational dialogue (since in this case the period is NOT part of the quote but rather the end of a sentence that contains one). Semantics. <br /><br /><br /><br />I highly recommend THE HANDBOOK OF GOOD ENGLISH by Edward Johnson. It's a reading staple of mine. Signed, Williams Jakespeare (my pet pseudonym)Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-13294937124325995162013-08-19T09:24:36.317-07:002013-08-19T09:24:36.317-07:00I did not mean that he should have been ejected be...I did not mean that he should have been ejected before the HBP. I meant that the warnings should have been issued before the hit by pitch to try to prevent that 4th pitch from ever happening. I agree there should not be an ejection until after the actual HBP in this case, but I do feel that a warning being issued prior to that 4th pitch could have prevented it from occurring.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-48752418821829314352013-08-19T09:23:57.459-07:002013-08-19T09:23:57.459-07:00Are you really going to dog him over that? Come o...Are you really going to dog him over that? Come on, dude, you're better than that. You contribute more in a post than 50 people, usually. I like that better! <br /><br /><br /><br />(Oh, and while we're hammering on each other for poor grammar or syntax or diction in a message forum, "A" is not a word, it's a letter!)...=-) <br /><br /><br /><br />I'm being facetious, of course. <br /><br /><br />"Me fail English? That's unpossible!" (Ralph Wiggum) <br /><br /><br /><br />"Can't we all get along?" (unkonwn hippie)Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-62362615259057881992013-08-19T09:20:29.753-07:002013-08-19T09:20:29.753-07:00Relax and just tune it out. If some people are he...Relax and just tune it out. If some people are here for the grammar rodeo (yes, I know there is no such thing, it is an allusion to the Simpsons), let them bandy about (often) incorrect grammatical concepts. I've written professionally (technical writer, but I also write childrens' books) since 1996, and poorly-executed grammar or syntax bugs me far less than pedantry. That being said, I think you raise a valid point.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-82332208436204758392013-08-19T09:17:09.839-07:002013-08-19T09:17:09.839-07:00This ain't the grammar rodeo. I have an ELA ...This ain't the grammar rodeo. I have an ELA teaching degree and write professionally. But I am sure I execute a typo inadvertently every now and again. I have a bigger problem with some of the people simply being on this board/forum to pick fights. The admins need to mop that shit up. Contribute, or STFU.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-56747688013184114552013-08-19T09:11:48.894-07:002013-08-19T09:11:48.894-07:00Well, that one is easy. If we eliminated all of ...Well, that one is easy. If we eliminated all of the cheaters, there would be no minor leagues because they would all have to be called up to replace the removed cheaters (which is probably a lot more than we know).<br /><br />To this date, I don't think Bonds or A-Scrod have failed drug tests to have thrown in their faces. Suspicions or not.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-87266243625010328322013-08-19T09:09:51.159-07:002013-08-19T09:09:51.159-07:00Umm, because Dumpster is not a very good pitcher? ...Umm, because Dumpster is not a very good pitcher? Should have stayed in the bullpen. =-)Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-56755700039816379222013-08-19T09:08:31.928-07:002013-08-19T09:08:31.928-07:00I don't think I have read a post from you yet ...I don't think I have read a post from you yet that is NOT contentious. Quite frankly I don't understand that. You obviously know the game, so contributions would be much better offered with some humility. Believe it or not, some of us are here to learn and discuss things, not bandy about pedantic or pusillanimous pedagogy. I don't know anyone in his or her right mind that would disagree with tossing Dumpster here. The point of the matter is that the 1st pitch "sent a message". Then the next two were behind him. So I Am not sure how they were "not nearly close enough to issue warnings over". The 4th pitch hit him. He should have been tossed for sure there. <br /><br /><br />"Good Lord, the rod up that man's butt must have a rod up its butt."Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.com