tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post5868587682036006129..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: Ejections 120, 121: Mike Everitt (3, 4)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-48865468189812884572012-08-16T17:10:57.530-07:002012-08-16T17:10:57.530-07:00After review, the Original Ruling has been affirme...After review, the Original Ruling has been affirmed in a unanimous 6-0 decision by the UEFL Appeals Board. Six Appeals Board members voted to confirm Quality of Correctness.<br /><br />Per Curiam Opinion:<br />The purpose of Rule 8.01(b) Comment is to exempt the pitcher from the Set Position cadence when a base runner cannot be deceived by violation of this rule and a balk is impossible for no runner is on base. Rule 8.01(b) Comment defers criteria for a Quick Pitch to Rule 8.05(e) Comment, which states, "Umpires will judge a quick pitch as one delivered before the batter is reasonably set in the batter’s box." Replays indicate the batter was reasonably set, was not put at risk and therefore, the Original Ruling of No-Call Correct is proper.<br /><br />Concurring Opinion, <b>Jeremy</b>:<br />I confirm the call of a quick pitch no call as correct. With nobody on base, a lack of stop in the set position is perfect legal. Although the pitch may still be judged a quick pitch by the umpires, it is their judgment. It is based upon the fact that the batter be reasonably set in the box, which Gonzalez was. Furthermore, I point to 2011's <a href="http://www.closecallsports.com/2011/05/ejections-rob-drake-1.html" rel="nofollow">Ejection 042: Rob Drake (1)</a> and <a href="http://www.closecallsports.com/2011/05/ejections-ed-hickox-1.html" rel="nofollow">Ejection 051: Ed Hickox (1)</a> where two quick pitches were adjudged to be correct and one confirmed on appeal. Unless there is clear evidence a quick pitch occurred and was not called, such as a batter clearly not even in the box, there is no reason to rule the umpire's judgment to be incorrect.<br /><br />Concurring Opinion, <b>tmac</b>, joined by <b>RichMSN</b>:<br />This is legal. I confirm.<br /><br />Therefore, the Board affirms the Original Ruling.<br /><br />Confirmed: <b>Jeremy, tmac, Albertaumpire, BillMueller, RichMSN, yawetag</b><br />Upheld: None<br />Overturned: None<br />Deferred: None<br />Abstained: <b>Gil (Posted Original Ruling)</b><br /><br />Quality of Correctness has been affirmed unanimously, 6-0.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-61817067821535412602012-08-15T21:19:47.679-07:002012-08-15T21:19:47.679-07:00No quick pitch here, I don't really know why B...No quick pitch here, I don't really know why Boston is complaining. Guess to distract from Bobby Valentine's impending firing? Maybe he'll come back to coach with a moustache and glasses (again)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-83158640795994467582012-08-15T21:18:26.569-07:002012-08-15T21:18:26.569-07:00Thanks Gil, eh i guess i did go a little over boar...Thanks Gil, eh i guess i did go a little over board with he's down part. Though the real concern is Gibson. Hopefully Greg is ok good to see he walked off ok, Im no doctor probably couple of stitches. I gotta say these men in black and blue try really hard, you saw gibson got down low and focused on the play at home plate. I dunno who will replace Gibby, i know regulars are coming back from vacations hopefully before september. Speedy recovery Gibby. Get well soonBryan Zegershttp://www.closecallsports.com/2012/08/ejections-120-121-mike-everitt-3-4.html?showComment=1345088697746#c360146334984159588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-80687410220827547582012-08-15T21:02:08.890-07:002012-08-15T21:02:08.890-07:00@Dan when I call, I make them take all that crap o...@Dan when I call, I make them take all that crap off every time. There's too much of that filtering down from the upper levels. HS Federation has a very strict rule against it, specifically prohibiting jewelry of any kind whereas OBR doesn't specifically, only if it's "distracting to the hitter." That type of language can drive selective enforcement though. Same thing with sun glasses, most umpires would tell you that according to OBR, a pitcher can't wear sunglasses, but you'll never find that word anywhere in the book.JeremyJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-52208004641657860082012-08-15T21:01:57.280-07:002012-08-15T21:01:57.280-07:00I agree that Everitt got this one right. To me, if...I agree that Everitt got this one right. To me, if the batter is set up in the box, looking at the pitcher, it's not a quick pitch. When I think of a quick pitch I think of a pitcher trying to deliver while the batter is still setting up in the box, or is clearly not yet looking at the pitcher. If there was a runner on then you have a different story, but with the bases empty this is a legal delivery.MattABnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-1014066872714777342012-08-15T20:51:20.831-07:002012-08-15T20:51:20.831-07:00Nothing wrong on your end, Bryan. BTW: here is the...Nothing wrong on your end, Bryan. BTW: <a href="http://www.closecallsports.com/2012/08/injury-greg-gibson-spiked-in-face-after.html" rel="nofollow">here is the Greg Gibson injury thread</a>.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-53957736520085761602012-08-15T20:50:53.076-07:002012-08-15T20:50:53.076-07:00It was interesting to see Jim Joyce make R A Dicke...It was interesting to see Jim Joyce make R A Dickey take a couple bracelets off his glove hand during the Mets/Reds game tonight. The bracelets were made by his daughters, and he's worn them as good luck for every start this year, and this is the first time it's ever come up as an issue during a game. I'm just curious if there was a new directive from MLB, or if the Reds said something, or what the story is. <br /><br />I like Jim Joyce, he's one of the best. But this seemed to be a selective enforcing of the rules tonight. I've seen pitchers that wear a lot more than two string bracelets on their glove hand, and nothing is ever said.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04227950154076067364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-25705140363383891582012-08-15T20:47:26.670-07:002012-08-15T20:47:26.670-07:00Great call on Everitt's part. Sometimes the b...Great call on Everitt's part. Sometimes the best thing you can do in baseball is do nothing and let what happens happen. Gonzalez was in the box, had the bat off his shoulder, and Stroup was in contact with the rubber, if he wasn't ready he should have called time. <br /><br />JeremyJnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-3601463349841595882012-08-15T20:44:57.746-07:002012-08-15T20:44:57.746-07:00Greg gibson got hit by tori hunter coming home. I...Greg gibson got hit by tori hunter coming home. I guess my comment from before was inappropriate idk? would like an explanation, didn't know. i paused what happened with gibson and saw that kinsler was ejected. Bryan Zegershttp://www.closecallsports.com/2012/08/ejections-120-121-mike-everitt-3-4.html?showComment=1345088072979#c7265675922834828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-49977376512849389362012-08-15T20:36:05.012-07:002012-08-15T20:36:05.012-07:00OUCH! Greg Gibson took a spike to the head (mask ...OUCH! Greg Gibson took a spike to the head (mask was off) while in position to make a call at the plate in the Indians - Angels game. He has left the game.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-59754262486754979952012-08-15T20:35:45.332-07:002012-08-15T20:35:45.332-07:00Why has may comment been removed by a blog adminis...Why has may comment been removed by a blog administrator?????????Bryan Zegershttp://www.closecallsports.com/2012/08/ejections-120-121-mike-everitt-3-4.html?showComment=1345088072979#c7265675922834828581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-72656759228348285812012-08-15T20:34:32.979-07:002012-08-15T20:34:32.979-07:00Wait there is more ian kinsler ejected by victor c...Wait there is more ian kinsler ejected by victor carapazza rangers yankees Bryan Zegershttp://www.closecallsports.com/2012/08/ejections-120-121-mike-everitt-3-4.html?showComment=1345087868187#c7989759395990209992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-79897593959902099922012-08-15T20:31:08.187-07:002012-08-15T20:31:08.187-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Bryan Zegershttp://www.closecallsports.com/2012/08/ejections-120-121-mike-everitt-3-4.html#comment-formnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-60811533062509268052012-08-15T20:20:23.325-07:002012-08-15T20:20:23.325-07:00Anon 8:13
You are close but they actually had no ...Anon 8:13<br /><br />You are close but they actually had no clue what was going on the hole video. I wonder if someone filled them in after the video ended?<br /><br />Any lip readers know what Valentine was saying?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-9022069473032455842012-08-15T20:20:21.197-07:002012-08-15T20:20:21.197-07:00LOL. Catcher's interference! I think this is t...LOL. Catcher's interference! I think this is the second time this week a broadcaster has mentioned catcher's interference when the argument concerned something completely different. I think the last one was Milwaukee (?) and Mike Winters calling a dead ball strike (batter got hit during a swing) on a two-strike count to end the inning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-65833902389958656622012-08-15T20:19:05.716-07:002012-08-15T20:19:05.716-07:00I agree with kickersrule this shouldn't be cha...I agree with kickersrule this shouldn't be challengeable wwjdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17043174994433295420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-74015677883379653102012-08-15T20:14:39.270-07:002012-08-15T20:14:39.270-07:00http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23938...http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=23938459&c_id=mlb<br /><br />MLB videoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-24151189389126833942012-08-15T20:13:52.542-07:002012-08-15T20:13:52.542-07:00Did I hear that right? The Baltimore announcers ac...Did I hear that right? The Baltimore announcers actually got the rule right? Knowing MLB, when they put up the ejection video (IF they do, which I assume they would as Boston is part of "Boston-New York"), we'll probably get to hear Don Orsillo's misguided views on how Gonzalez should be awarded a home run for the quick pitch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-71373619490176083172012-08-15T20:07:19.522-07:002012-08-15T20:07:19.522-07:00How is this play even challengeable? Some one that...How is this play even challengeable? Some one that isnt even in the league is just saying challenge for fun.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-90066316265466107992012-08-15T20:05:21.811-07:002012-08-15T20:05:21.811-07:00Gonzalez said Mikey you stink and got tossed from ...Gonzalez said Mikey you stink and got tossed from the dugout. More rabbit ear umpiring let him talk, ignore it and move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-85512613139011379262012-08-15T20:04:42.641-07:002012-08-15T20:04:42.641-07:00Nothing wrong with this at all.Nothing wrong with this at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-89559062735713152362012-08-15T20:04:36.912-07:002012-08-15T20:04:36.912-07:00@Anon 7:55pm -- No! The comment to rule 8.01(b) sa...@Anon 7:55pm -- No! The comment to rule 8.01(b) says that you do NOT have to come to a complete stop before pitching *if* there are no runners on base. See the description of the play above. The comment also specifies that "If, however, in the umpire’s judgment, a pitcher delivers the ball in a deliberate effort to catch the batter off guard, this delivery shall be deemed a quick pitch, for which the penalty is a ball."<br /><br />So the only argument for this being a ball is if it is a quick pitch. If you watch the video, you can clearly see that gonzalez wasn't caught off guard, and made good contact. So I don't see how this can be considered an attempt to catch the batter off guard. Furthermore, the pitching action is actually quite slow. There was plenty of time for gonzalez to see that the pitcher is in his motion, and prepare to swing.<br /><br />Good call, I think. Ump got it right.rednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-78266596857715890612012-08-15T20:02:31.625-07:002012-08-15T20:02:31.625-07:00This ruling has been challenged and is under revie...This ruling has been challenged and is under review by the UEFL Appeals Board.<br /><br />@Anonymous 7:55 PM, refer to the above post regarding Rule 8.01(b) Comment.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-20626134369594582162012-08-15T19:55:35.568-07:002012-08-15T19:55:35.568-07:00because he wasn't in the stretch, doesn't ...because he wasn't in the stretch, doesn't he have to come to a stop?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-55367705697807423722012-08-15T19:45:48.434-07:002012-08-15T19:45:48.434-07:00Challenge he was trying to catch te hitter off gua...Challenge he was trying to catch te hitter off guard thats y he quick pitchedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com