tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post678518313838412008..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: Ejection 028: Todd Tichenor (1)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-84726190310150174662012-05-17T13:05:50.962-07:002012-05-17T13:05:50.962-07:00Roger Clemens did the same thing to Greg Kosc on a...Roger Clemens did the same thing to Greg Kosc on a play at first base in 1986 at old Comisky, but since it was before the You Tube era, everyone forgot about it, except me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-63883850312823253552012-05-16T12:54:35.869-07:002012-05-16T12:54:35.869-07:00After review, the original Quality of Correctness ...After review, the original Quality of Correctness of "Correct" has been affirmed in a 4-0 decision by the UEFL Appeals Board. Four Appeals Board members elected to Uphold and one elected to Confirm the original ruling.<br /><br />In affirming its decision, the Board employed a Balls/Strikes exemption and examined three at-bats: (1) Bonifacio, (2) Buck, (3) Dobbs. The Board discovered 11 total callable pitches during those at-bats, and found Tichenor called to an accuracy of 82% (nine-for-11) during those at-bats. Furthermore, the Board found that the two missed pitches occurred during the second at-bat and were missed as balls one and two to lead off the at-bat.<br /><br />The Board judged Tichenor's holistic performance over the course of the half-inning and issued the following opinion, per curiam:<br />The missed pitches appear not have had a realistic effect on the outcome of the inning. Buck (2) walked on a 3-1 count following a Bonifacio triple and prior to the Dobbs single. There is a realistic or perhaps probable chance Bonifacio's run would have scored had Buck been retired instead of walking with zero outs.<br /><br />Confirmed: <b>Gil</b><br />Upheld: <b>tmac, BillMueller, yawetag</b><br />Overturned: None<br />Deferred: None<br />Abstained: <b>Jeremy (Posted Original QOC), Albertaumpire (Vacation), RichMSN (owns Tichenor)</b><br /><br />Quality of Correctness has been affirmed, 4-0.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-52497096716648995632012-05-15T12:35:56.071-07:002012-05-15T12:35:56.071-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17928566751658766664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-10180114029310581302012-05-14T19:23:57.217-07:002012-05-14T19:23:57.217-07:00Hey to the person who posted at 9:41 PM:
how many...Hey to the person who posted at 9:41 PM:<br /><br />how many times did Clemens or Lou ever physically try to get at an umpire like Fransisco did?! I'm all about passion and love for the game but that's way over board. Say your peace and get on outta here. Why try to attack an umpire?! You're the one not pitching good! hahaBearded Beastnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-41467630623404572402012-05-14T12:39:10.400-07:002012-05-14T12:39:10.400-07:00Yes, I would have called those pitches strikes. Ho...Yes, I would have called those pitches strikes. However, I think there's a lot to be said for consistency. This ejection occured in the ninth inning. If Tichenor has been consistently tight at the bottom for nine innings, then the onus is on the pitchers to adapt. If Francisco has been watching the game, then he should have no expectation of a strike call on those pitches. Regardless of his expectation or performance, it's not his job to cause that kind of scene. Let Terry Collins do it, that's his job.Jon Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08536926849992961224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-75813554430620939032012-05-14T12:27:07.160-07:002012-05-14T12:27:07.160-07:00The point about being a strike umpire is a good on...The point about being a strike umpire is a good one. There will be borderline calls all game, but if the umpire consistently calls these strikes the batters learn to swing, thus taking the onus off the umpire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-53011795493394656612012-05-14T11:36:24.376-07:002012-05-14T11:36:24.376-07:00Aaaaah, the strike zone. Even if baseball decides ...Aaaaah, the strike zone. Even if baseball decides to use a machine to call balls and strikes, as some fans wish they would, we still won't be in agreement about what's a strike and what's not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-37024000968316909882012-05-14T09:55:57.101-07:002012-05-14T09:55:57.101-07:00Why not be a call-it-like-the-rule-book-says-to-ca...Why not be a call-it-like-the-rule-book-says-to-call-it umpire?UmpsRulenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-13598844424818806932012-05-14T09:38:06.043-07:002012-05-14T09:38:06.043-07:00I wish he would have called these pitches strikes....I wish he would have called these pitches strikes. Even though the graph said they were low, looking at the pitches on the video, they seem to be good looking pitches. Why not be a strike umpire instead of a ball umpire?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-91848328844943784892012-05-14T09:08:06.035-07:002012-05-14T09:08:06.035-07:00I've seen the word tantrum associated with Pin...I've seen the word tantrum associated with Piniella.UmpsRulenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-6803398814923217722012-05-13T21:41:49.962-07:002012-05-13T21:41:49.962-07:00Funny, when Paul O'Neill or Lou Piniella or Ro...Funny, when Paul O'Neill or Lou Piniella or Roger Clemens screamed at umpires, it was called passion. When Francisco does it, it is called a tantrum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-17016294258536011842012-05-13T21:14:28.426-07:002012-05-13T21:14:28.426-07:00Tichenor did not do a horrible job on the day.... ...Tichenor did not do a horrible job on the day.... But depending on your point of view didn't call the low pitch or missed the low pitch<br /><br />http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/cache/zoneplot.php-pitchSel=all&game=gid_2012_05_13_nynmlb_miamlb_1&sp_type=1&s_type=7.giftmacnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-44613432692526896592012-05-13T19:52:04.302-07:002012-05-13T19:52:04.302-07:00Anon 4:47 -- It is WAY too soon to declare that To...Anon 4:47 -- It is WAY too soon to declare that Todd Tichenor is the new Bill Hohn. Give the kid a chance please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-68681322536590997322012-05-13T19:18:57.314-07:002012-05-13T19:18:57.314-07:00@UmpsRule
To help with your question, the only pe...@UmpsRule<br /><br />To help with your question, the only people who would know exactly when he got tossed are people who were at the game. I was watching the game live, and they showed Francisco walking off the mound, barking at Tichenor, and then cut to commercial. When they came back, all that could be seen was what is in the video link.<br /><br />There is no doubt in my mind that Francisco was arguing Ball 1 and 2 to John Buck. The Brook's graphic has both of those pitches as within the bounds of the strike zone, and Francisco barked a bit on those calls, but really let it loose when he was being taken out by Collins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-76853502711485713722012-05-13T19:07:21.966-07:002012-05-13T19:07:21.966-07:00UmpsRule, yes...as say the write up ;). He was eje...UmpsRule, yes...as say the write up ;). He was ejected, arrested, suspended for the season, went to anger management classes, and had to settle civilly with the injured fan he hit.<br /><br />If I remember correctly, the fans were found to do no wrongdoing in the incident and it was a misinterpretation by the Rangers pitching coach at the time of what was happening with some of the Rangers players.Jeremy Dirckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18377576945075992373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-49548253920096862282012-05-13T18:49:32.985-07:002012-05-13T18:49:32.985-07:00Isn't this the same Frank Francisco that once ...Isn't this the same Frank Francisco that once threw a chair into the stands?UmpsRulenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-65289086911551536502012-05-13T18:39:28.318-07:002012-05-13T18:39:28.318-07:00Tichenor did miss Pitch #1 and #2 in the John Buck...Tichenor did miss Pitch #1 and #2 in the John Buck at bat, but that doesn't excuse Francisco's behavior. You can't confront an umpire like that. If Terry Collins hadn't stepped in between the two men, I think we'd be talking about a suspension situation. Francisco has been having a terrible season, and I think this was a culmination of everything boiling over.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04227950154076067364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-35493317980009565102012-05-13T18:11:19.697-07:002012-05-13T18:11:19.697-07:00Specifically, Francisco was arguing Pitch #1 and P...Specifically, Francisco was arguing Pitch #1 and Pitch #2 to John Buck.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-38826514418592359162012-05-13T17:42:57.035-07:002012-05-13T17:42:57.035-07:00@ Anon 4:47
Yeah, that's right. Let's thr...@ Anon 4:47<br /><br />Yeah, that's right. Let's throw in the towel on Tichenor's career over two incidents that occurred four seasons apart. What a great idea!<br /><br />A question: Was Francisco heaved before or after he walked towards Tichenor?UmpsRulenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-42498734648198162802012-05-13T16:52:09.341-07:002012-05-13T16:52:09.341-07:00This ruling has been challenged and is under revie...This ruling has been challenged and is under review by the Appeals Board.Jeremy Dirckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18377576945075992373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-69363450097232611582012-05-13T16:47:00.940-07:002012-05-13T16:47:00.940-07:00This is the same umpire who fouled up a double swi...This is the same umpire who fouled up a double switch in a Padres at Mets game in 2008. He is the new Bill Hohn. He argued the two pitches at the knees and both calls were incorrect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-64436358965438602422012-05-13T16:38:35.276-07:002012-05-13T16:38:35.276-07:00Gil, 2 of your dodger boys were ejected on a corre...Gil, 2 of your dodger boys were ejected on a correct call!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-59771411875982674602012-05-13T16:26:37.513-07:002012-05-13T16:26:37.513-07:00@anon 4:03 yes they did but thats only two pitches...@anon 4:03 yes they did but thats only two pitches we don't know about the remaining pitches prior to the ejectionwwjdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17043174994433295420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-57880516241559231372012-05-13T16:03:04.495-07:002012-05-13T16:03:04.495-07:00@wwjd anon 3:43 did say there were 2 missed calls ...@wwjd anon 3:43 did say there were 2 missed calls in John Buck's ABAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-82856043241952504562012-05-13T15:47:03.043-07:002012-05-13T15:47:03.043-07:00i challenge using the balls/strike exemption i wan...i challenge using the balls/strike exemption i want to know how the rest of tichenor's inning waswwjdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17043174994433295420noreply@blogger.com