tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post683925163932120548..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: Ejections: Marty Foster (1, 2, 3, 4)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-29254385998789046872011-07-15T00:30:05.142-07:002011-07-15T00:30:05.142-07:00MLB has announced the following fines and suspensi...MLB has announced the following fines and suspensions related to July 8/9/10's incidents:<br /><br />Red Sox DH David Ortiz: 4 Game Suspension / Undisclosed Fine<br />Orioles P Kevin Gregg: 4 Game Suspension / Undisclosed Fine<br />Red Sox C Jarrod Saltalamacchia: Undisclosed Fine<br />Orioles P Jim Johnson: Undisclosed Fine<br /><br />Red Sox P John Lackey: Undisclosed Fine<br />Orioles P Mike Gonzalez: 3 Game Suspension / $1,500 Fine<br />Orioles Manager Buck Showalter: 1 Game Suspension / Undisclosed FineLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-60735422402571790252011-07-12T10:37:33.280-07:002011-07-12T10:37:33.280-07:00A warning can never be an OVEREACTION. A warning ...A warning can never be an OVEREACTION. A warning is given if the umpire isn't sure if the action was intentional. Follow? Huh? <br />I've actually given both benches warnings, and then had a HBP 4 innings later that did not result in an ejection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-55646971420676739382011-07-11T12:50:53.710-07:002011-07-11T12:50:53.710-07:00It amazes me how naive some of the people that com...It amazes me how naive some of the people that comment on this site are. In this type of a situation the "intent" does not matter...its the potential after effects if nobody gets run. Taking into account the previous incidents from this series I don't care what the score is, how many runners on base there are...if you have issued warnings and a guy gets hit on the hand by an inside fastball, he's done. No questions asked. If Marty doesn't run him right there, there will almost certainly be another brawl in this game. You could see the Vlad's reaction and you had better believe the rest of the O's bench felt the same way. Great job by Marty in preventing another potential debacle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-25475253589904563382011-07-11T09:46:14.999-07:002011-07-11T09:46:14.999-07:00Again here I come with my "that's not in ...Again here I come with my "that's not in the rules" statement:<br /><br />Putting myself in the umpire's shoes, if I'm behind the plate in an a game right after a fight occurred, between the same two teams that are playing that night, the first person to step even accidentally out of line is showering early - I'm not gonna let another fight erupt cause I sat there and did nothing and said "oh, I don't think he didn't hit him on purpose."Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-25696152344256427612011-07-11T07:57:22.500-07:002011-07-11T07:57:22.500-07:00To the 9:30 poster:
I happened to be watching the...To the 9:30 poster:<br /><br />I happened to be watching the game, which I doubt that you were. If in Foster's mind he's considering the context of what happened earlier in the weekend, then you also have to think in the context that the ``offending'' pitcher was trying to make it through the fifth inning of his first major league start (the fact he he had given up six runs yet was in line for a W if he made it through the fifth tells you that he hardly had the greatest command). <br /><br />The warning that Foster called on Guthrie from the Orioles to get everything started was also an overreaction. It was on a changeup in a score/count situation that didn't call for him to hit someone. Even the Red Sox announcers were saying it was not warranted in that situation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-79934435777083456812011-07-11T07:30:40.586-07:002011-07-11T07:30:40.586-07:00On that note, I would absolutely love a Milb fanta...On that note, I would absolutely love a Milb fantasy site!!! The more ejections, the merrier!<br /><br />Plus, those Milb skippers are great actors!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-35879884142930853122011-07-11T03:01:14.582-07:002011-07-11T03:01:14.582-07:00Well, the rule on the Milb fantasy site shouldn...Well, the rule on the Milb fantasy site shouldn't count them then, this is MLB.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-72384657921457421252011-07-10T21:31:17.604-07:002011-07-10T21:31:17.604-07:00As an ex-Milb umpire, when we kept track of ejecti...As an ex-Milb umpire, when we kept track of ejections we never counted throwing situations. That would definitely make your dilemma a lot easier.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-36007832510701842272011-07-10T21:30:08.925-07:002011-07-10T21:30:08.925-07:00Relax all you arm chair umpires. The guy had 2 s...Relax all you arm chair umpires. The guy had 2 seconds to decide, plus if you factor the previous fight, your argument about the HBP not being intentional is moot. He started that pitch on the inner half, and he knew full well the ball would move towards the batter. My gosh you guys, he's a big league pitcher. He also knows he cannot start the pitch directly at the batter without getting ejected. The only hope was to accidentally on purpose hit him. I can't believe people can be so naive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-52955311197695417152011-07-10T21:21:43.779-07:002011-07-10T21:21:43.779-07:00If the situation didn't make sense when the HB...If the situation didn't make sense when the HBP happened, and you wanted to not get ejected, but still hit someone................ c'mon! wake up! How else better to hide in plane sight? Not all intentional HBP happen right after a homerun, or the next half inning. It may be 2 seasons later!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-39958973073332089122011-07-10T19:19:03.984-07:002011-07-10T19:19:03.984-07:00Given that Whalen didn't have the greatest com...Given that Whalen didn't have the greatest command all game I think his ejection was a bit overzealous on Fosters part. The ball behind Ortiz was obvious and that ejection was warranted. <br /><br />I also like anonymous 6:47PM's point about the points for bean ball ejections...With that it could be argued that the Whalen/Francona ejection could be ruled as "Incorrect" since it wasn't obvious that it was intentional(and sure didn't look intentional,given Whalen's performance) but I think that might cause too much debate doing that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-21586086648097402252011-07-10T18:47:46.045-07:002011-07-10T18:47:46.045-07:00Personally, I've always felt these beanball ej...Personally, I've always felt these beanball ejections should carry no points in the league. There's no way to call them incorrect and they carry way too much weight. The leader in the league has benefitted from carrying Jim Joyce and the beanball ejections from the opening week of the season.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-83607154571758843692011-07-10T17:46:17.457-07:002011-07-10T17:46:17.457-07:00This has got to be addressed in the off-season. Ho...This has got to be addressed in the off-season. How could Foster's judgement, which made no sense, be any different than say, Cuzzi's judgement on the check swing call on Gaby Sanchez two weeks ago? If Foster gets a pass for his ``judgement'' for the correct call, then it should apply to check swing calls as well. <br /><br />There was no way that the Boston set of ejections in this game were correct, given the score, the pitch itself and the fact it was a guy struggling to hold on through five innings in his first major league start. Even the HBP which caused the warning was on a changeup that seemed to sting the catcher more on the deflection off of the batter. <br /><br />Because these calls are basically two-fers (player and manager go), there's too much at stake for the rule stay as is in 2012.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-57142620666450796812011-07-10T17:24:47.794-07:002011-07-10T17:24:47.794-07:00Friday's brawl led to the quick warnings, no d...Friday's brawl led to the quick warnings, no doubt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-1618332798523696152011-07-10T15:40:40.442-07:002011-07-10T15:40:40.442-07:00Don't really know how you throw at a guy inten...Don't really know how you throw at a guy intentionally with a guy on and a one-run game, but maybe Foster knows something I don't...<br /><br /><br />In an unrelated note, for those of you "has to get out of the way at all costs" guys, what do you think of this one: http://milwaukee.brewers.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16830149Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-63802534718620394622011-07-10T15:29:29.909-07:002011-07-10T15:29:29.909-07:00Just one video covers both sets of ejections:
http...Just one video covers both sets of ejections:<br />http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16850001<br /><br />I understand the rules of this board consider the ejections automatically "correct," but neither the HBP of Youkilis that led to warnings being issued, nor the HBP of Guerrero that led to the first two ejections seemed to be intentional by any stretch of the imagination.<br /><br />The pitch thrown behind Ortiz, on the other hand, was definitely intentional.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-35059365136608846792011-07-10T15:27:30.940-07:002011-07-10T15:27:30.940-07:00http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16837...http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=16837495&query=%26game_pk%3D288262Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com