tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post7248898944950151392..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: Ejection 129: Jeff Nelson (4)Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-54105095837325431812012-08-22T18:51:16.921-07:002012-08-22T18:51:16.921-07:00What curt will never understand is it doesn't ...What curt will never understand is it doesn't matter what actually happened on a play. What matters is what the umpire calls.<br />If the umpire had 3 hours after the game to look at a play, and check the rule book he mite make a different call, but that's not reality you dumb RATS. The umpire gets 3 seconds tops to decide.<br />Curt you sound really really smart, hours after the game, and after having looked at 10 replays. And then you get to type your words, and even go back and change what you've written, hours after thinking about the play your talking about. <br /> A person who abandons or betrays his or her party or associates, especially in a time of trouble is a Rat.<br />Curt your not an umpire, you'll never understand what it is like to be in those shoes, that's why it's easy for you to stick it up the umpire ass, no matter who it is. How are you not a Rat?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-3499267879661933542012-08-22T04:17:13.614-07:002012-08-22T04:17:13.614-07:001:38, I see you skipped right over the whole Nelso...1:38, I see you skipped right over the whole Nelson being a great umpire thing. Did you disagree with that part of my comment too?<br /><br />Your comments demonstrate the problem with the mindset of some who comment. If you think it boils down to either being on the side of "the umpires" or not, I submit that you need to live a little bit. <br /><br />It's not about being on the umpires side all the time. That's being an apologist. Strike that. It's not being an apologist, it's being a liar. It's worse than the idiots who always say the umpire is wrong every time. It's worse because, as an umpire, you're better than that. <br /><br />This transcends Nelson and this particular play. Surely you understand that an umpire can be both right and wrong in one of these transactions. An umpire can hustle his butt off, get in perfect position and make a perfect call. He can also make a well-justified ejection. Then act like a jerk after the ejection. That's an example of an umpire being great and not-so-good on the same play. <br /><br />Surely you also understand that an umpire can be flawless on an ejection today, but next week lose his temper and look like an a--. Is it anti-umpire to praise him for the flawless performance today, but say he acted like a jerk on the ejection next week?<br /><br />Under your theory, if I say an umpire is perfect on the call, perfect on the ejection, but looked bad on the situation handling, then I'm an anti-umpire rat. I'm not trying to patronize you, but if you are an umpire, I know you're a hell of a lot smarter than that. Curt Crowleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15704349341530572678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-69658981316470930412012-08-21T00:11:27.226-07:002012-08-21T00:11:27.226-07:00You think crowley is an umpire? Based off what? c...You think crowley is an umpire? Based off what? crowley is no umpire. He's full of shit, and uses things he learned at the amatuer level, and tries to analize pro umpires. He has no clue about umpiring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-69681445741908081942012-08-20T20:22:11.219-07:002012-08-20T20:22:11.219-07:00Crowley, since no one respects the umpires, the qu...Crowley, since no one respects the umpires, the question is as an umpire would you rather be respected or feared?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-69679277448868852152012-08-20T07:16:19.108-07:002012-08-20T07:16:19.108-07:00Blogger needs to work on a mechanism to successful...Blogger needs to work on a mechanism to successfully filter out the word "rat". It's getting used entirely too much around here. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-57418319517180255602012-08-19T21:33:32.817-07:002012-08-19T21:33:32.817-07:00Anon @ 8:34:
Really? When was the last time an u...Anon @ 8:34:<br /><br />Really? When was the last time an umpire yelled at a player for striking out or booting a ground ball?Zachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17288543795321578552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-57040744236929891982012-08-19T14:22:51.088-07:002012-08-19T14:22:51.088-07:00The Appeals Board is still reviewing the Campos-Bl...The Appeals Board is still reviewing the Campos-Blanton & Kellogg/Caparazza/Foster-Reynolds/Showalter ejections, so points are currently frozen until those are resolved. Nelson does indeed have two points.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-68732647928750162932012-08-19T14:12:50.506-07:002012-08-19T14:12:50.506-07:00Ok this might be a stupid question, but I'm a ...Ok this might be a stupid question, but I'm a rookie, so be nice.......<br /><br />It says in this post that Nelson has 2 points and he's my primary umpire, so why is it still showing I have -2 points for Nelson? TX Wranglernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-7459629287320509602012-08-19T10:30:57.191-07:002012-08-19T10:30:57.191-07:009:08, I understand the desire to respond in kind. ...9:08, I understand the desire to respond in kind. However, if the position of umpire is to be respected, the persons who occupy that position must act in a manner that is respectable. <br /><br />When an umpire engages in conduct that is the same as the conduct for which he just ejected a player, that umpire is not worthy of respect. He is a hypocrite and a bully who is abusing his authority. If it is unsportsmanlike for a player or manager to do it, it is also unsportsmanlike for the umpire to do it. If there is a penalty for players and managers, there also needs to be a penalty for the umpires who choose to act that way. <br /><br />In short, this behavior is wrong because it cheapens the umpiring profession, no matter how good the umpire's technical skills may be. Curt Crowleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15704349341530572678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-47666294860645210332012-08-19T09:54:26.857-07:002012-08-19T09:54:26.857-07:00Turn your back?? Chris, you're a puss. I can ...Turn your back?? Chris, you're a puss. I can only imagine the kaos on your field when you umpire. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-65565571147551649942012-08-19T09:08:42.065-07:002012-08-19T09:08:42.065-07:00Maybe Nelson has a little Jerry Crawford in him.
G...Maybe Nelson has a little Jerry Crawford in him.<br />Gives it as good as he gets. Wish the entire MLB umpire staff would do the same. Clamp down on the a-holes, all of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-66245050719593020782012-08-19T08:36:44.128-07:002012-08-19T08:36:44.128-07:00Jeff Nelson is a great umpire. His only flaw is th...Jeff Nelson is a great umpire. His only flaw is that he just won't STFU after an ejection. He doesn't exactly look professional arguing with Farrell and turning around to get a parting shot in after Tschida walks up. <br /><br />There's nothing wrong with Nelson offering an explanation about what happened. If Farrell is shouting him down, then throw him out and move on. When Nelson yells back he looks like an a-- who is doing the same thing he just ejected someone for doing. Curt Crowleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15704349341530572678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-85202061688782202012012-08-19T02:16:04.960-07:002012-08-19T02:16:04.960-07:00If we let the players yell at us, then the manager...If we let the players yell at us, then the managers and coaches would expect to be able to do the same! That would be even more intolerable. Tschida's crew is just having a few rough days at work, same as all of us. Do we anticipate getting disciplined or fired, over a small perecentage of our entire workload. I should hope not! Things will bet back to normal for this well run and talented crew, and then some other crew will be taking the heat and be in the spotlight. Thats how it works, teams have and high and lows and so do umpiring crews. It is what makes this game so special.Spence1222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-88943534838949210402012-08-18T23:10:08.708-07:002012-08-18T23:10:08.708-07:00Chris the umpire cannot just allow one player to y...Chris the umpire cannot just allow one player to yell like that. If he does, the umpire must now let everyone do it. So with that in mind he has to draw the line. Should he wait until 2 players yell? Then the 3rd player will say why did you let those guys yell, and you don't let me yell?<br />Listen Chris, the players are fully aware, they are not like you. Players always eject themselves, they all know where the line is.<br />What players do in front of the camera, on the field is just for show. It's about money, contracts, it's about looking like they have this never say die attitude. That way the next time their contract is up, their agent can argue, look see this guy has passion for the game. No doubt they all are Rats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-31114453273363093442012-08-18T22:36:00.076-07:002012-08-18T22:36:00.076-07:00How can anyone argue that this is not a deserving ...How can anyone argue that this is not a deserving ejection? The man yelled "F*ck you" all the way across the diamond...<br /><br />Crickethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06216709036280564160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-29848939861860273552012-08-18T21:33:04.201-07:002012-08-18T21:33:04.201-07:00I don't think Toronto's synchronized split...I don't think Toronto's synchronized split screen video tells the whole story. Notice that when the split screen starts, Nelson and Escobar are already going at it, which suggests there was more leading up to this that the video does not show.<br />This could very well have been a 100% justified ejection. But because of Angel Campos's trainwreck in Pittsburgh the other day, this entire crew has been branded with a scarlet letter, so anything they do will be held in suspicion. All I can say is, THANK GOD it's not too late to fire Mr. Campos. He has unfairly tarnished an entire crew with his incompetence. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-59080955222900883082012-08-18T21:13:01.751-07:002012-08-18T21:13:01.751-07:00Read Escobar's lips right before he is tossed....Read Escobar's lips right before he is tossed. You cannot yell that across the diamond and expect to stay in the game. That is absolutely elementary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-16530110597345220442012-08-18T20:34:58.641-07:002012-08-18T20:34:58.641-07:00wow some very interesting comments on here:
Here&...wow some very interesting comments on here:<br /><br />Here's how this works: The player can yell but he must do it in the direction of the outfield not staring at Nelson. Every action has a reaction and Nelson is reacting to the player yelling at him. The player is warned and he decides to yell again resulting in an ejection. Perhaps we have some players on here that don't understand umpiring 101. This one is pretty basic.<br /><br />Continued disputing of balls and strikes results in offender leaving the playing surface and partaking in the spread before everyone else. tmachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15801025280017627526noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-64189128640329521732012-08-18T20:34:58.067-07:002012-08-18T20:34:58.067-07:00Umpires don't yell at players? Really? Get rea...Umpires don't yell at players? Really? Get real Zac!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-7479855075308896222012-08-18T20:06:02.732-07:002012-08-18T20:06:02.732-07:00I think this crew needs a break. Agreed Campos is...I think this crew needs a break. Agreed Campos is gone, but this EJ looks bad. If you want to eject him, eject him immediately...don't wait until he takes the field and then decide you want to eject him. <br /><br />I think this whole group could use a series off. I don't think they are bad umpires, they just need a break. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-25724337888208230152012-08-18T19:46:59.360-07:002012-08-18T19:46:59.360-07:00chris, who cares? Players don't get to yell a...chris, who cares? Players don't get to yell at the umpires. We don't yell at them when we feel like they screw up, so it goes both ways. <br /><br />Turning a blind eye and ignoring the shortstop blasting you does not work. It shows you up and makes things harder on the next umpire that deals with the guy yelling at him.Zachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17288543795321578552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-12393846115473300512012-08-18T19:39:18.255-07:002012-08-18T19:39:18.255-07:00looks to me like the umpire was standing along the...looks to me like the umpire was standing along the first-base line when he ejected him, which tells me the pitcher is prolly taking his warmup tosses,chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-53057949099888741292012-08-18T19:32:36.911-07:002012-08-18T19:32:36.911-07:00To tell you the truth, this ejection reminds me of...To tell you the truth, this ejection reminds me of Mattingly after Jerry Meals ruled Matt Treanor had left third early on a sacrifice fly to end an inning. Only when the broadcast came back from commercial break did Mattingly end up getting tossed, similar to what Escobar did here. He does nothing until getting ready to begin the next inning. It's an unecessary delay, so YES, he IS stopping the game to argue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-84788524782925248872012-08-18T19:21:20.141-07:002012-08-18T19:21:20.141-07:00i get what you're saying, but it's not lik...i get what you're saying, but it's not like he's stopping the game to argue, he didn't get in the umpire's face. It's between innings. He disagreed with a call. I'm sure he's also frustrated about popping out. Just walk the other way and give him the silent treatment. chrisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-13048958838480380522012-08-18T19:01:26.137-07:002012-08-18T19:01:26.137-07:00"Turn your back and ignore the guy yelling at..."Turn your back and ignore the guy yelling at you from shortstop"?????? Are you serious?<br /><br />1) Umpires shouldn't tolerate players yelling at them period. but we'll put that aside and focus on the fact this is a ball strike argument which is strictly forbidden by the rules and is an immediate ejectable offense.<br /><br />2) And if the player is in the vicinity of the SS position than he us yelling from @ 110 ft away, which means he is a) yelling loudly and b) attempting to insult and embarrass the umpire in front of the entire infield and probably the first few rows of fans.<br /><br />I don't know any umpire at any level that would "turn his back" on that nonsense. Give me a break.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com