tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post7488185155628574621..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: Forum: 2013 MLB World SeriesLindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-63805888236837225502013-11-04T10:28:32.271-08:002013-11-04T10:28:32.271-08:00I know you meant to say:
"My apologies, I m...I know you meant to say:<br /><br /><br />"My apologies, I mistakenly assumed Troy had bothered to look at the data before making his statement. Clearly that was not the case, and I found myself in a Russian nesting doll situation, with my foot in my mouth and my head up my ass, which prevented me from responding."Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-53996113768220715912013-10-31T12:40:12.043-07:002013-10-31T12:40:12.043-07:00Apology accepted...Apology accepted...Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-3643150323463170212013-10-31T10:23:27.348-07:002013-10-31T10:23:27.348-07:00Why would I need to respond? If you are correct t...Why would I need to respond? If you are correct then the numbers are indeed lopsided and you have disproven Troy's statement, ending the discussion.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-25893799739881182482013-10-31T09:41:44.374-07:002013-10-31T09:41:44.374-07:00So now that more data has been presented regarding...So now that more data has been presented regarding bias no response? <br /><br /><br />I look forward to the day these discussions are irrelevant, bring on the robo umps!Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-86162832069954776842013-10-30T15:28:01.906-07:002013-10-30T15:28:01.906-07:00The summary numbers up top are wrong. Total should...The summary numbers up top are wrong. Total should be 72/74 Balls, 33/44 Strikes, 105/118 = 89.0%<br />Missed Balls:<br />AB ID #8 0-0 pitch: px = 0.437 pz = 3.503 sz_top = 3.66<br />AB ID #35 0-0 pitch: px = 0.531 pz = 3.504 sz_top = 3.61<br />Both are Lester's pitches. <br /><br /><br />I also count 11 missed strikes. 7 for BOS, <br />5 of the 7 were off the left corner of the plate, one of them both off the plate and low. Lester's called strike 3 against Carpenter was about 7 inches off, Koji's was about 3.5 inches off. <br /><br /><br />Of similarly valued px pitches for STL, (Less than 3.5 inches off left side of plate) STL got 3 pitches called as balls. Perhaps its no coincidence that 12/15 or 80% of Koji's pitcher were to that edge of the plate(As opposed to 10/26 or 38.4% in the rest of the series), earning him two unearned strikes, and two swinging strikes on two seamers that were close enough before breaking sharply. Carpenters AB made it clear they had toLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-60845192909116399282013-10-30T05:20:24.833-07:002013-10-30T05:20:24.833-07:00see, I have a hard time with big strike zones. Tha...see, I have a hard time with big strike zones. That's why I like Joe West's zone. It is relatively small, yet he is amazingly consistent. The game is slanted to the pitchers (I say this because if any batter gets a hit more than a a quarter of their at-bats, we find them to be great hitters) I take grief from games that I do because my zone is slightly smaller than most. As long as an umpire is consistent, I really don't care about what pitch FX says.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-46660111550775490822013-10-30T01:35:15.337-07:002013-10-30T01:35:15.337-07:00Troy said that the data disagrees with Fan32's...Troy said that the data disagrees with Fan32's "intimations of bias". In what way does your single pitch example disprove that statement?Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-57403956896207055822013-10-29T15:05:19.163-07:002013-10-29T15:05:19.163-07:00You are wrong Troy! The 3-2 pitch to Carpenter was...You are wrong Troy! The 3-2 pitch to Carpenter was way outside and the data says so as well. At the same time I love Bill Miller as an umpire because of his big strike zone and his consistency.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-39223301801596521832013-10-29T13:26:54.089-07:002013-10-29T13:26:54.089-07:00But, if Craig had avoided him he would have scored...But, if Craig had avoided him he would have scored easily. I don't see the problem.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-19325952738792761792013-10-29T11:26:46.821-07:002013-10-29T11:26:46.821-07:00The data disagree with you, at least as far as you...The data disagree with you, at least as far as your intimations of bias.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-76368440229917595702013-10-29T07:35:13.712-07:002013-10-29T07:35:13.712-07:00The home plate ump in game 5 was terrible. He cal...The home plate ump in game 5 was terrible. He called Matt Carpenter out twice on called 3rd strikes and neither pitch was a strike. The first time the pitch was 6-8 inches off the inside of the plate and the ump was set up on that side....how do you miss this pitch? The pitch in the 8th was 6 inches outside. He also missed 3-4 strikes early when Wainright was hitting the outside corner but the ump was set up on the inside...... bad bad job. I've noticed that MLB will hardly show the strike tracker in the bottom right hand corner when the Cardinals are pitching....but when the Red Sox are pitching they show it all the time. They should leave it up every pitch to show how bad the home plate ump was last night. The Cards had runner on 2nd and Carpenter should of walked to give them a threat.... but the ump took the bat out of his hands on a ball way inside. Makes one curious....Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-86533085596381456912013-10-28T22:07:26.084-07:002013-10-28T22:07:26.084-07:00Considering that he was moving for the duration of...Considering that he was moving for the duration of the play, I think Bill Miller can count himself lucky for getting the call at the plate right.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-75210327401118001862013-10-28T20:43:36.030-07:002013-10-28T20:43:36.030-07:00He had the same problem Demuth did with the low pi...He had the same problem Demuth did with the low pitches.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-30715205985248637402013-10-28T08:00:07.912-07:002013-10-28T08:00:07.912-07:00Emmel's zone was awful. http://www.brooksbaseb...Emmel's zone was awful. http://www.brooksbaseball.net/pfxVB/zoneTrack.php?month=10&day=27&year=2013&game=gid_2013_10_27_bosmlb_slnmlb_1%2F&prevGame=gid_2013_10_24_slnmlb_bosmlb_1%2F&prevDate=1027Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-11390566313855721252013-10-27T13:43:23.795-07:002013-10-27T13:43:23.795-07:00I laid on as much sarcasm as I could in text. I am...I laid on as much sarcasm as I could in text. I am just very happy to hear Tim is retiring, I almost have to put the game on mute, and have at times.<br /><br /><br />I will concede that they did say "interference" a few times but after a few times it was only obstruction, and the "signals" Tim was referring to were "kind of" there. Jim Joyce did signal and DeMuth did see it, however Tim was trying to make it sound like they were doing some sort of super secret long distance hand shake that only he could decipher as a signal, when in reality it was just a normal signal of a point that happens many times during a season, there just normally is no need for further involvement as the "awarded" bases are achieved anyway.<br />To me it seamed like an automatic call to make.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-73498482520906373522013-10-27T08:04:10.137-07:002013-10-27T08:04:10.137-07:00Now I understand why Hirschbeck is crew chiefNow I understand why Hirschbeck is crew chiefLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-47950201560731748242013-10-27T07:42:22.846-07:002013-10-27T07:42:22.846-07:00Yeah the downside is that his zone is low and outs...Yeah the downside is that his zone is low and outside. And the consistency wasn't there.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-75700538595100913322013-10-27T03:29:07.115-07:002013-10-27T03:29:07.115-07:00I don't think it's "BS"--Joyce s...I don't think it's "BS"--Joyce signaled obstruction like he was supposed to, and Demuth saw the signal. That fits the definition of there being "signals between them".Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-90768587257644490852013-10-26T22:12:12.254-07:002013-10-26T22:12:12.254-07:00Joe kept saying that it was "interference&quo...Joe kept saying that it was "interference" on Middlebrooks. McCarver was making up some BS about signals between Joyce and DeMuth, and even giving DeMuth credit for the call. I wouldn't say the words were quite descriptive of reality.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-52243530683694767792013-10-26T22:00:13.275-07:002013-10-26T22:00:13.275-07:00From the press conference it is pretty clear that ...From the press conference it is pretty clear that the call was right. However, it's a terrible rule if it is that black and white. No place for Middlebrooks to go and Craig could easily have avoided him if he had bothered to look.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-32244306334659849722013-10-26T21:35:14.472-07:002013-10-26T21:35:14.472-07:00Bring on the robotsBring on the robotsLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-2960680145366813702013-10-26T21:24:57.064-07:002013-10-26T21:24:57.064-07:00Hey even the worst baseball team of all time won 1...Hey even the worst baseball team of all time won 1 out of 4 times. If it were ESPN they'd be screaming because the play went against their beloved Sox.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-15305552161870654332013-10-26T21:24:34.066-07:002013-10-26T21:24:34.066-07:00haha nope.haha nope.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-18161010676201793672013-10-26T21:21:59.099-07:002013-10-26T21:21:59.099-07:00there still brutal announcersthere still brutal announcersLindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-38367829194481519042013-10-26T21:21:50.406-07:002013-10-26T21:21:50.406-07:00Correct because McCarver said so? Runner tripped ...Correct because McCarver said so? Runner tripped over himself. Forget that T Joyce's best days are behind him can we put to rest that Demuth is actually a good umpire, and his bias through three games does not make his abilitities the issue?Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.com