tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post7495914836413848338..comments2024-01-18T06:49:55.117-08:00Comments on Close Call Sports & Umpire Ejection Fantasy League: Rule 6.02(a): It is a balk when—Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-81646091329033082492012-07-26T00:44:05.610-07:002012-07-26T00:44:05.610-07:00what about the truth/myth of the shoulder turn whe...what about the truth/myth of the shoulder turn when a righty is looking to first? I've never seen that prohibited in any rule book but so many people, umpires and players/coaches think that that is a balk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-84166338873696654472012-07-23T21:35:33.464-07:002012-07-23T21:35:33.464-07:00I had a funny one last year. A left-handed pitcher...I had a funny one last year. A left-handed pitcher was in the stretch, comes set, then begins his motion home. When he began his motion the guy on first took off for second, at which point the pitcher stops, steps off, and throws to second. I immediately call the balk, and the coach comes out, and wants to argue, because he "stepped off". I'm trying to explain that it doesn't matter, once he starts delivering the pitch he cannot change his mind and nullify his motion by stepping off. The coach even at one point tried to claim, with a straight face, that it doesn't matter what the pitcher does prior to stepping off the rubber, as long as he steps off before throwing to a base. Needless to say, it was one of the most obvious balks imaginable, and a funny argument from a not very rule savvy coach.MattABnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-80015462820845466092012-07-23T08:06:00.514-07:002012-07-23T08:06:00.514-07:00You cannot balk with your head.You cannot balk with your head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-4856314514719860372012-07-23T00:38:10.848-07:002012-07-23T00:38:10.848-07:00@Rogue Element, movements of the head have largely...@Rogue Element, movements of the head have largely been considered legal; As long as the action does not cause the body to move, head movement independent of torso movement would likely not indicate an action naturally associated with the start of a pitch sequence.<br /><br />@Anonymous 11:56 PM, the one fluid motion concept in regards to balk largely relates to Rule 8.05(a) and the hesitation or start-stop balk calls. It appears to me the broadcaster's "single motion" remark relates to the pitcher feigning to first base as Motion #1, in which case, the pitcher is compelled to throw to first base. It would appear the broadcaster's "two motion" act that would relieve the pitcher from the responsibility of throwing to first base would be Motion #1: Steps off the pitcher's plate. Motion #2: Fakes to first base, as opposed to simply Motion #1: Fakes to first base.<br /><br />That said, the balk call remains one of the most confusing and/or difficult aspects of the baseball rules book, which does occasionally contribute to some erroneous narration on TV or radio.<br /><br />Generally, the lower-body pick-off to first base is initiated in one of two ways: 1) The pivot foot moves first, or 2) The free foot moves first. Fast pitchers create a third way: 3) Both feet move at the same time. Nonetheless, in the Loe example, it appears his pivot foot disengages the pitcher's plate prior to his feign to first base.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-11825816009214451222012-07-22T23:56:46.944-07:002012-07-22T23:56:46.944-07:00In the Myth section, video about being able to fak...In the Myth section, video about being able to fake to first. The announcer said that if it's one single motion, you have to throw to first. Is that true? That looked like one single motion from Loe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-2674607629863783162012-07-22T19:40:30.790-07:002012-07-22T19:40:30.790-07:00I watched the "hesitation" clip a couple...I watched the "hesitation" clip a couple extra times to savor the sight of Eddie Rap practically skipping in front of the plate to call the walk-off balk. When you're going to end a game on a balk, definitely err on the side of too much selling rather than too little!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-2326864143587022412012-07-22T17:56:35.707-07:002012-07-22T17:56:35.707-07:00I have a brief question re: balks and Casey Jansse...I have a brief question re: balks and Casey Janssen. Are movements of the head exempt from balk calls? The reason I ask is that with runners on, after Janssen comes to a set position, he will at times do a dramatic head nod (without delivering a pitch) that appears to me to be an attempt at deceiving the runner. He does not do it every pitch, and will at times do it twice. As far as I am aware he has never been called for a balk for this motion.<br /><br />I searched long and hard for a linkable highlight for this question, and I failed to find one, apologies. However, I *was* able to find a situation, from June 19th, Blue Jays vs Brewers, the final at bat vs Taylor Green. After 3 normal pitches (no head fake) and a pickoff attempt, on the 4th pitch Janssen sets, does a dramatic head nod, before resetting and delivering his pitch.<br /><br />I've been wondering this for a long time, and any answer would be appreciated.Vincent Konghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00366964044674217443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-27885187378683055412012-07-22T14:01:25.411-07:002012-07-22T14:01:25.411-07:00All runners (including the BR) did not advance at ...All runners (including the BR) did not advance at least once base therefore the balk is enforced. The pitch does not count and the runner on 3rd is awarded home.SJRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-55137438066208691592012-07-22T12:48:30.553-07:002012-07-22T12:48:30.553-07:00@cyclone14, it appears the Arredondo balk was call...@cyclone14, it appears the Arredondo balk was called because he began his motion toward first base prior to stepping off the pitcher's plate, which, even though he eventually was off the plate, compelled him to complete the throw.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-67269610604485872602012-07-22T12:39:03.745-07:002012-07-22T12:39:03.745-07:00Thanks Gil,
I just proved myself right in both ca...Thanks Gil,<br /><br />I just proved myself right in both cases. I hate 2nd guessing myself and this is the best site to make sure I am right.<br /><br />KickersruleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-82989665796742171302012-07-22T12:38:55.871-07:002012-07-22T12:38:55.871-07:00(1)
In pro, mound visits are covered by Rule 8.06(...(1)<br />In pro, mound visits are covered by Rule 8.06(b): "A second trip to the same pitcher in the same inning will cause this pitcher's automatic removal from the game." There are no limits on one-visit innings in pro. In high school, NFHS Rules 3-4-a and 6-2-2-b additionally specify a pitcher must be removed after the third charged conference. If a game goes extra innings, the three-conf. limit is ignored and NFHS reverts solely to pro rules (one per inning, unlimited innings).<br /><br />(2)<br />OBR 4.01 makes repeated reference to "whose name is on his team's batting order," as opposed to "whose number." Rule 6.01(a): "Each player of the offensive team shall bat in the order that his name appears in his team’s batting order." Rule 10.03(a) instructs the official scorer to "list each player's name and fielding position." Name, not number. <br />NFHS Rule 9-2-2 specifies the official scorer shall keep player # as part of the record and scorebook, while Rule 10-2-m authorizes the UIC to correct a scorekeeping error if brought to his attention before jurisdiction is terminated after the game is over. The obvious exception here is that BOO or illegal substitution is not simply a scorekeeping error, while an incorrect number is. Rule 7-1-1 specifies batting order is determined by how a "name appears on the lineup card as delivered to the umpire prior to the game," as opposed to uniform number.Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06361341904305010488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-49214982864979494882012-07-22T09:03:42.353-07:002012-07-22T09:03:42.353-07:00Ok I need some more help. Ive been getting into s...Ok I need some more help. Ive been getting into some arguments that I never thought I would before. I hate reading the rule book. It just confuses me. <br /><br />Ok first. These are all pro rules by the way. How many mound visits can you have before the pitcher has to be pulled? I know if its the 2nd one in the inning they have to be but how many do they get if its only 1 per inning? I always thought they had to be pulled after the 3rd visit in high school and pro rules.<br /><br />2nd <br />Manager writes down the wrong number on the line up card for a player. After he comes up to bat and gets a base it the other teams manager brings this to my attention. I just changed the # on the line up card and let it go, but im thinking i got this one wrong. Was I suposed to call him out at first base and also remove him from the ball game?<br /><br />Im pretty sure I know all these rules but certain managers and other umpires always make me second guess myself. Ok help me out here please and thank you.<br /><br />Your defending champion and current leader.<br />Kickersrule<br /><br />KickersruleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-91772520184315029752012-07-22T08:26:07.024-07:002012-07-22T08:26:07.024-07:00If aol runners including the batter runner advance...If aol runners including the batter runner advance at least one base safely the balk is nullified. The wording of the last myth is entirely deceiving because if the batter is put out at second base and all other runners have advanced at least one base safely the balk would be ignored and the out would be recorded along with any runs scored.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-86080530769633490632012-07-22T07:50:44.392-07:002012-07-22T07:50:44.392-07:00Based on the wording of the very last ``myth'&...Based on the wording of the very last ``myth'' mentioned and the use of the word ``and'', what happens if the batter hits a sacrifice fly?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4917712291092871273.post-85627452144577001082012-07-22T07:22:35.030-07:002012-07-22T07:22:35.030-07:00Great post...amazing work!
Just a little confused ...Great post...amazing work!<br />Just a little confused about (b): http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=15666865<br />Does he not step off before faking the throw to first?? I'm unsure why this is still called a balk.cyclone14noreply@blogger.com