Sunday, May 8, 2011

Basketball Ejections: Scott Foster (1, 2)

Though the Umpire Ejection Fantasy League is dedicated to the sport of baseball, events occasionally take place elsewhere in the sports world that are of an incredible nature or gravity. Introducing the "Other Sports" label, here are two ejections from the basketball world.

Crew Chief Scott Foster ejected Lakers forward Lamar Odom for Flagrant Type 2 and Lakers center Andrew Bynum for Flagrant Type 2 during the 4th Quarter of the Lakers-Mavericks game. With 9:06 remaining in the 4th, Odom committed an off ball foul on Mavericks forward Dirk Nowitzki. Though Umpire Jason Phillips initially signaled the Flagrant Type 1 call, after replay review, the decision was made to upgrade the foul to a Flagrant Type 2 and ejection of Odom from the contest.* With 8:21 remaining in the 4th, Bynum committed a flagrant foul on Mavericks guard J.J. Barea, who was an airborne shooter at the time of the foul; Barea's shot entered the basket and was scored. Bynum was immediately and simultaneously ejected by all three officials, Foster, Referee Ron Garretson, and Phillips. A simultaneous ejection by multiple officials is credited to the Crew Chief (Foster).** At the time of Odom's ejection, the Mavericks were leading, 94-68. At the time of Bynum's ejection, the Mavericks were leading, 100-68. The Mavericks ultimately won the contest, 122-86, and won the series, 4-0.

These are Scott Foster (48)'s first and second credited ejections of the 2011 Post Season.
Lakers forward Ron Artest was also ejected for a Flagrant Type 2 earlier during the Lakers-Mavericks series.
*Scott Foster is credited with this ejection under UEFL Rule 6.b.iii.a.2.
*Scott Foster is credited with this simultaneous ejection under UEFL Rule 9.a.

Wrap: http://www.nba.com/playoffs/2011/westseries6/index.html

Video (1): Odom is Ejected

Video (2): Bynum is ejected

14 comments :

zcr57 said...

I think it would be fun to have a similar "league" for NBA ejections. I'm not sure how to to track it though because the official who tosses the player isn't always credited in the box score.

It would be fun to do it for NFL ejections too, but ejections in the pro ranks are few and far between.

Anonymous said...

Plus everyone would probably select Ed Hockuli and Mike Carey for ejections in the NFL

Lindsay said...

If they were indicated in the box score (X ejected by Y, like baseball), we could easily incorporate other sports. For now, though, we'll start with this "Other Sports" tag when something notable (high profile ejection, etc.) occurs. And, yes, baseball ejections remain much more common than NBA, NFL, or NHL disqualifications.

By the way, Joe West is owned by 11 people in the UEFL this year. Talk about mass ownership.

Anonymous said...

Compared to A-Rod going "AAAA" behind the 3b trying to catch a pop up a few years ago, this is bush league times one million.

Bill said...

"And, yes, baseball ejections remain much more common than NBA, NFL, or NHL disqualifications."

Because we have nothing else...the other sports can penalize unsportsmanlike conduct with technicals, yardage, yellow cards, and minutes.

At the high school level you can bench restrict, but if I'm gonna do that, I might as well eject. Ejection is the only true enforcement tool we have in baseball, but we are the only major sport we someone can run onto the field of play and not be immedaitely penalized for it. It is simultaneously a great and bad tradition of the game.

Jim said...

Baseball has many more ejects than other sports because of what Bill said and because there are many more games, played more often. Football could go weeks without an ejection, but baseball has them almost daily. This site is so great because it concentrates on baseball where these things are commonplace, but I'd be interested in the occasional basketball or football post.

Jeremy Dircks said...

To Bill and Jim, I would definitely agree. I can only think of a few ejections in the last few years in the NFL. Even out of those ejections there are hardly any from arguing with an official. Usually in football, ejects occur for fighting or late or illegal hits, like this one here (great officiating btw). Even with the NFL getting stricter on illegal hits and including more as an illegal hit, those punishments usually come from the league or only result in a personal foul.

Justin Smith of the 49'ers was ejected this year for bumping the U in a game, but that was from a skirmish, not from arguing. Jay Cutler received a U.S.C. penalty for arguing. Two years ago Brandon Stokely was ejected for contacting an official as the result of arguing over a P.I. call, but again he was ejected for the contact, not the arguing itself.

JPINFV said...

Bill and Jim,

I think there's a few other huge differences between baseball and other sports that leads to more ejections.

1. No time limit. There's a big difference between running out onto the field to contest a call when you have to burn time or a time out and basically given a time out between every play.

2. Formal method of challenging calls. Why do coaches not argue calls in football? Instant replay. They don't have to run onto the field, they can just throw a red flag. For multiple reasons, though, the instant replay as used in football is incompatable with baseball.

3. The pure number of regular season games per team.
Number of games per team: NBA: 82. NHL: 82. NFL: 16 MLB: 162 games All leagues have 30 or 32 teams, which takes out being concerned about weighing total games per season instead of games per team.

So 1 season of baseball is equivilant to 2 seasons of hockey and basketball and 10 seasons of football.

4. ...and yes, as both of you mentioned, the lack of any other method to penalize. However, compared to football, hockey, or basketball, the comparitives (free bases and free runs) are much more drastic than 5-15 yards, a shootout, powerplay, or free throws. In fact, the only penalty close to penality bases or penality runs would be the power play in hockey.

yawetag said...

I'm not a basketball official, but the first didn't seem flagrant enough to warrant an ejection.

The second, though, should come with fines and suspension for several games next year. That was totally malicious.

Anonymous said...

I think the first was an ejection only because his team was getting blown out and it was the 4th qtr - there's no chance they're going to come back. It's the final game of the series, and there's just no reason for an intentional foul like that. So even though it could have easily been a Flagrant One, I think the officials made a good call by going Two and ejecting Odom. It's not like Odom had ANY remorse and it's not like keeping him around, especially after a cheap shot, would serve any purpose. The Lakers were done; keeping him around wouldn't give them any more chance of winning.

Anonymous said...

I like it! Basketball ejections are just as if not more extraodinary than baseball ones, right? Let's see if anything else of great significance happens during this playoffs round.

Lindsay said...

Combining fines and forfeitures, Bynum will lose around $700,000 over this incident.

Anonymous said...

Please quit wasting space with nonsense! It is obvious the new "helper" is going out of his way to post something on a regular basis and frankly I don't care about it! Stick to baseball ejections that is what this is about!

Lindsay said...

@Anon re: content, Be advised, you may view only UEFL Ejection content by using the "labels" feature. Click here to view just Ejections. The Ejections-only link has also been added to the UEFL description at the top of every site page.

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