Thursday, July 5, 2012

Ejection 083: Brian Knight (2)

1B Umpire Brian Knight ejected Padres Manager Bud Black for arguing an out call in the bottom of the 7th inning of the Reds-Padres game. With one out and one on, Padres batter Cameron Maybin hit a 1-2 slider from Reds pitcher Mat Latos to second baseman Brandon Phillips, who threw to first baseman Joey Votto as Maybin attempted a head-first slide into first base. Replays indicate Maybin's hand touched first base prior to Votto's catch, the call was incorrect. At the time of the ejection, the Reds were leading, 1-0. The Padres ultimately won the contest, 2-1.

This is Brian Knight (91)'s second ejection of 2012.
Brian Knight now has 2 points in the UEFL (4 Previous + 2 MLB + -4 Incorrect Call = 2).
Crew Chief Mike Winters now has 3 points in the Crew Division (3 Previous + 0 Incorrect Call = 3).
Maybin appears to have been safe

This is the 83rd ejection of 2012.
This is the 42nd Manager ejection of 2012.
This is Bud Black's first ejection since April 24 (Lance Barrett; Correct).
This is Brian Knight's first ejection since May 8 (Jim Leyland; Correct).
The Padres are second in the NL West with 3 ejections (LAD 7; COL, SF 1; AZ 0). 

45 comments :

Anonymous said...

Appears? This one wasn't even close.

Jimmy Jack said...

Padres announcers initially went crazy, but very quickly said how tough the call really is for an umpire: "You're expecting the sound of the ball in the glove and foot on the base and when a player sneaks into the base softly..."

Rough call, but absolutely indisputably incorrect.

Jay said...

Great photo, really tells the tale of the tape. Safe, the call was blown. Oh well.

Anonymous said...

Can't even wait for the umpire apologists of this site like UmpsRule to come in and say that this call was a lot harder because Knight didn't have freeze frames or instant replay to get the call perfect... THIS WAS NOT CLOSE IN REAL TIME.

Jared said...

I love the caption: "Maybin appears to have been safe." I can picture Rick Reed or some supervisor talking about this play: "Gentlemen, it appears young Brian Knight made an error at Petco Park last night."

Reminds me of Space Mutiny, "Gentlemen, it seems that we are all not in agreement." [Crow T. Robot: "I disagree!"] AWESOME!

jdbr78 said...

Funny this happens right after he is selected for the ASG. People were already doubting his selection and now this...

Torre: Hey Bud, can I get a mulligan on those all star pics???

Anonymous said...

Dick Enberg and Tony Gwynn got it right about "it wasn't even close," and they were fair to Brian Knight, too, explaining the call does get tougher if the batter-runner chooses to slide instead of running through the base. Fair broadcasting IMO, even with the emotion about the blown call going against San Diego.

Anonymous said...

No, this does not provide reason for instant replay...

Anonymous said...

I still think DiMuro's is the worst call of the first half of 2012, with Welke at 2nd. Knight, however, is certainly the 3rd worst at the moment. I can't think of anything worse than those three.

Janet said...

Picture says it all. Umpires need to go back to school.

James said...

Great work on the photo, Gil. Proof positive that Maybin was wrongly called out.

Turducken said...

You're listening for the whack, and watching the hand. Looks like he just flat out missed it.

In Knight's defense, he gave Maybin a long leash before Maybin decided to head to the bench when Black came out and picked up the argument.

Russ said...

Sliding head first has always given Umpires a tough time on calls like this. I reference a play last year in which Dustin Pedroia was clearly out but ruled safe by Tim McClelland and it would eventually lead to the ejction of Joe Girardi. Mostly Umpires will go on sound during bang bang plays at first and if there is a head first slide they will not hear the running sound which makes it tougher. Still got to get these calls right though.

Anonymous said...

With Hoye's ejection of Scioscia and here with Knight, we've seen younger umps show restraint and give managers and players more time to argue and give them every opportunity to remain in the game. I know this call was blown - and missed quite badly - but if we had a QOC for how an ejection is handled, from a scale of Bob Davidson to Mike Reilly, Knight and Hoye are doing just fine.

Anonymous said...

I will give a vote and say Marty Foster's call on May 18th leading to the ejection of Dale Sveum was worse than this call. Apparently you can push someone off a base and get them out.

I would also say the no call on what should have been a balk by Gary Darling's crew leading to the ejections of Jim Leyland and Tom Brookens was worse than this call

Finally, I would say Bill Welke's call of a foul ball rather than strike three on May 28 leading to Jim leyland and Gene Lamont's ejections was also worse than this call.

Anonymous said...

Thank goodness this call was in the Padres vs Reds game, a virtual guarantee that it will be ignored by ESPN and MLB Network.

Anonymous said...

Look at dave roberts reaction, buckles back as if to say, "I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!"

Cricket said...

Not excusing the missed call, by any means...

But why does Maybin dive here? If he runs through the bag, he beats it by half a step.

Big Marc said...
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Big Marc said...

Cricket, I'm thinking he dives because he's figured out that it makes it harder on the umpire. He's probably crunched the numbers and figured out he gets called safe more times than not on a bang bang play, so if he thinks he mite be out, the dive tilts the odds a little bit more in his favor. On this play, the reverse is true, it's hard call he didn't get the benefit of.

Frankly, an anon poster calling out UmpsRule for being an umpire apologist is absolutely pathetic.

@anon9:55pm- You can't wait to hear from the umpire apologists on this play? Really did you even watch play? Are you sane? KMA

Brett said...

I agree with Big Marc, irony at its best with someone not willing to attach their name calling out another user.

As for the call, we can see he missed it. No further discussion needed about that fact. It does not matter how bad someone missed someone, you either miss it or you don't. I also agree with Cricket here. Why is he diving? Maybin would have clearly beat it on his feet, which is much easier to call than a dive into first. It is almost like a fielder complaining that a whacker does not go his way after booting the ball. If you make the play to begin with, it is not close.

UmpsRule said...

I have been called an umpire apologist? Well, I would like to take time to thank all the people who made this moment possible...kidding!

Yes, Knight blew the call. It's unfortunate and it could have been fixed on replay, but the fact is Knight blew the call. However, as Anon from 9:55 so kindly pointed out, this call was much harder than it looks, as Knight didn't get to look at a bunch of freeze frames. He should be able to, but he isn't, so he gets stuck with this nice mess on his hands.

UmpsRule said...

Is there any chance we could get a UEFL video that shows the toss, perhaps with the San Diego announcers?

Anonymous said...

Craig Reynolds was safe by that margin when Fred Brocklander called him out to complete a double play and negate a run in the 1986 NLCS Astros - Mets. Nolan Ryan was on the mound and the Mets won in extras - so that one run could have made the difference. Reynolds ran straight through the bag - what was Brocklander's excuse. (Some old calls never die, they just continue to gnaw and gnaw away)

Anonymous said...

Jerry layne's crew was at that first game of TB V CLE now its Darlings crew never seen that before is that accurate

Anonymous said...

They could be working the Yankees v redsox series, it a four game series with a day night double header. I miss the old yankee v redsox games when everyone was hitting one another

Anonymous said...

Nope Carlson, hickox, Timmons replacing rapuano and Hernandez in the yankees redsox game

Turducken said...

Anybody catch Deadspin's feature today on the strike three calls of every Major League Umpire? I thought it was pretty nifty.

Russ said...

Darling's crew is in Cleveland tonight. The reason it was Layne's crew in Cleveland Yesterday is because Darling's crew was still in DC for the last game of the Giants vs Nationals series. Layne's crew was already in Cleveland Monday-Wednesday and their series in Philadelphia didn't start until Today so it was easy enough to keep them in Cleveland an extra day. This had to be a goof up by whoever scheduled the Umps because this is the exact thing they try to avoid. Oh well.

BTW, Bob Davidson is working a Phillies game for the first time since his argument with Charlie Manuel that would lead to his suspension. Davidson has the plate tommorow.

Anonymous said...

Awesome to see someone finally call out UmpsRule. I don't think it's pathetic, I think it's great. Don't like that? Too bad.

UmpsRule said...

@ Anon 6:56

And why is that?

Bob Loblaw said...

@Anonymous troll(s)

Great job turning yet another comment thread into a flame war. We all appreciate your generous contribution to the conversation.

P.S.
Get a life.

Russ said...

Jesus, what is so bad about umpsrule that he needs to be called out twice by anonymous posters? It is uncalled for, especially when there is nothing to back up your so called claims.

PS,it is very cowardly to call somebody out without attaching a name to it. Just saying.

Anonymous said...

My problem is that you give umpires too much credit -- 'oh, that was a tough call! he didn't have a million replays to look at! that's hard to the naked eye!' -- the bottom line is you get the call right, or you get the call wrong. There is no in between. It's either right, or not right. No excuses.

Turducken said...

@Anon 6:56, 8:34

You must have never umpired a game in your life.

Anonymous said...

Russ,

Anon 8:34 is me.

http://www.closecallsports.com/2012/06/how-visiting-team-can-walk-off-touch-em.html#comment-form

There's my claim.

Turducken -- What kind of name is that? You're an idiot, I've umpired ten times as many games as you have.

UmpsRule said...

Frankly, the umpires do not get enough credit for the amount of time they spend devoted to their work, time in which they are separated from their families. Instead of being appreciated, they are hated and reviled. Why? There is no acceptable answer.

Also, using one remark made in defense of Mike Muchlinksi on an ultra-close call as an attempt to discredit me is rather weak.

UmpsRule said...

Also, you may not like Turducken's name, but at least he has one.

Jett said...

Where have I heard "Turducken" before? Oh yeah, he's in third place in the UEFL. Also nice to see you're so sure of yourself that without knowing anything about the guy, you're quick to throw out "idiot" and are sure that no matter how many games he has umpired, you've umpired ten times as many.

Who let a 13-year-old on the computer?

Anonymous said...

Ok, I know the excuses but this is so obvious on tape... it's really not defendable.

Turducken said...

Well, I'll be the first to admit that I've probably umpired some-odd 350 games in my lifetime. So, perhaps you have me beat. But, that would be quite impressive. But, you'd probably have to figure in 3,500 games, that you'd have a bang-bang call that you probably kicked; that's purely the human element. But to say that you expect perfection from every umpire on every night is flawed.

As far as the idiot comment, I won't dignify that with a response. If you think it bothers me, it doesn't, so, move on. Very cowardly how you post without a name, going after not only myself, but one of the most civil, productive, and intelligent commentators of this site, UmpsRule.

UmpsRule said...

Thank you for the kind words, Turducken.

Anonymous said...

Holbrook dumped pitcher and manager in 1st.

Anonymous said...

Greinke and Reineke ejected by Sam Holbrook, it could have been what happend with jose altuve and cory hart, im guessing miss tag?

Curt Crowley said...

I've been on the opposite side of several discussions with umpsrule, and it would be wrong to describe him as an apologist. Initially, I thought perhaps he was. However, he has two qualities that make him not an apologist: (1) his opinions are always reasonable, even if you disagree with them, and (2) when an umpire is wrong, he says so.

There are others who frequent this site that you could call out as apologists. Umpsrule isn't one of them.

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