Tuesday, July 30, 2013

MLB Ejection 110: Jerry Layne (1; Mike Scioscia)

1B Umpire Jerry Layne ejected Angels Manager Mike Scioscia for arguing a safe call in the bottom of the 2nd inning of the Angels-Rangers game. With none out and none on, Rangers batter Geovany Soto hit a 0-1
Layne gives Sciosc a silent stare.
curveball from Angels pitcher C.J. Wilson on the ground to third baseman Alberto Callaspo, who threw to first baseman Mark Trumbo as Soto arrived at the base. Replays indicate Soto's right foot appeared to contact the first base bag prior to Trumbo obtaining secure possession of the baseball in his glove, the call was correct. At the time of the ejection, the contest was tied, 2-2. The Rangers ultimately won the contest, 14-11, in 10 innings.

This is Jerry Layne (24)'s first ejection of 2013.
Jerry Layne now has 4 points in the UEFL (0 Previous + 2 MLB + 2 Correct Call = 4).
Crew Chief Jerry Layne now has 5 points in the UEFL's Crew Division (4 Previous + 1 Correct Call = 5).

This is the 110th ejection of the 2013 MLB season.
This is the 53rd Manager ejection of 2013.
This is the Angels' 2nd ejection of 2013, T-2nd in the AL West (OAK 5; LAA, TEX 2; SEA 1; HOU 0).
This is Mike Scioscia's 2nd ejection of 2013 and first since May 26, 2013 (Marty Foster; QOC = Correct).
This is Jerry Layne's first ejection since Sept. 6, 2012 (Quirk, Clevengert, Corpas & Gonzalez; QOC = U).

Wrap: Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim vs. Texas Rangers, 7/30/13
Video: After close play, Scioscia tossed; receives the patented Jerry Layne silent treatment (LAA)

43 comments :

Gil Imber said...

Wow, that toss was unusually quick. I guess Scioscia prefixed his tirade with "you're." What do the ones proficient in lip reading think was said?

Gil Imber said...

I love the silent treatment. I wish we could know what Scioscia said.

Gil Imber said...

Scioscia: [Obscured]
Layne: .

Gil Imber said...

That was a very quick hook.

Gil Imber said...

That was a very short comment.

Gil Imber said...

i think its pretty obvious that scioscia said the magic words

Gil Imber said...

There is a lot of magic words. I want to know which ones he said.

Gil Imber said...

Challenge. Inconclusive, at best. Simple Safe/Out call.

Gil Imber said...

So is it simple or inconclusive?

Gil Imber said...

Simple safe/out call = reason for challenge. As in, not a rule-oriented challenge.

Gil Imber said...

Y = X + 1, but there's not enough information to solve for X or Y =/

Gil Imber said...

Tie goes to the umpire.

Gil Imber said...

My lip reading isn't great but on the texas feed it looks like he came out and said "you f***ed up"

Gil Imber said...

Best ejection of the year so far. That was hilarious.

Gil Imber said...

Boredcravens silence can't be misquoted.

Gil Imber said...

Not an ejection since it was an umpire doing it.. what do you think would have happened if a player had done this to an umpire?!?!

Gil Imber said...

http://wapc.mlb.com/play/?content_id=29269321&query=umpire

Gil Imber said...

I wouldn't be surprised if Cooper earned himself a suspension for violating situation handling guidelines or whatever it was that Davidson was suspended for a while back.

Gil Imber said...

On MLBN, they blurred out Scioscia's last words prior to the ejection.

This seems like a really unnecessary situation to argue a call. Scioscia had to have intended to get thrown out the moment he left the dugout.

Gil Imber said...

This ruling has been challenged and is under review by the UEFL Appeals Board.


We actually do use the shorthand of "simple" vs. "complex" rulings in our Board discussions similar to how BillUnit has used it here - "simple" being a rudimentary judgment call - did the fielder beat the runner, did the ball hit the line, did the ball get trapped, etc. "Complex" for us stands for rule-oriented and also judgment calls that require a bit more extrapolation - fan interference runner placement, infield fly NCI vs NCC, etc.

Gil Imber said...

Having the benefit of watching the play in slow motion from multiple angles, I do think the ball hit the glove just a split second before the runners foot hit the bag. But I could definitely see the call going either way. Layne handled that about as well as you can as an umpire.

Gil Imber said...

He got the call at first base right. Regarding the ejection, it would be wrong of us to pass judgment on the decision to eject Scioscia without first knowing what he said. If he was just arguing the call, that's one thing, but if he used any threats, profanity, or accusations (e.g. "Are you f@#$ing blind?" or, "You better reverse that now or I'll have your job,") then I could see the ejection as clearly warranted. I think the only people who know what he said are Scioscia, Layne, and those within earshot. I would love to hear a recording of this conversation or at least see Scioscia's lips move when he first opens his mouth. Too bad there isn't one.

Gil Imber said...

You have the benefit of watching the replay multiple times and you still got the call wrong. He was safe. Watch the video again until you see the foot hit the bag before the ball gets into the glove. The call was close but if its overturned to be incorrect I will not be in the UEFL next year.

Gil Imber said...

That comment was written in the English language.

Gil Imber said...

This is the second time Jerry Layne has given someone the silent treatment during an ejection argument (Bruce Bochy last year was the first). It seems to be pretty effective at having the manager out there for a very short time.

Gil Imber said...

What did Cooper do wrong? The pitcher was showing him up by throwing his hands up in the air. I thought Cooper handled it properly. Gave him a stern warning. IF you let pitchers get away with that behavior, pack a lunch because you're in for a looooong day.

Gil Imber said...

Cooper didn't handle it properly. He didn't need to approach the mound in that fashion to give a warning.

Gil Imber said...

Mike, it's the second inning and it's a close play. Your team needs you on the bench, not in the locker room.

Gil Imber said...

I like it. It circumvents confrontational tactics and pretty much nips any argument in the proverbial bud.

Gil Imber said...

Scioscia must have made a very magical statement right off the bat because this was the fastest hook I have ever seen.

Gil Imber said...

On the Texas feed, you can clearly hear him say "You f***ed up!" Good night....

Gil Imber said...

On the very last replay they show press the play/pause button and go frame by frame. If you do this you will see what looks like a "snow cone" in the front of the glove. At that frame the ball is ENTERING the glove but hasn't hit the back of the glove yet. In this same frame the runners foot is on the bag.

Gil Imber said...

3B Umpire Bill Miller just chucked Don Mattingly for arguing two previous check swing calls while making a pitching change.

Gil Imber said...

I hope we have the vid?

Gil Imber said...

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130801&content_id=55474114&vkey=news_la&c_id=la



Don't know if were getting the video

Gil Imber said...

Does l"you fu$ked up" really deserve an automatic EJ??? Its really not all that different than "you fu$king missed it"... which is not considered "magic words" at the NCAA & PRO levels, . Now if he said "YOU'RE fu@ked up", I can understand the quick hook. For those of you that work higher level ball - what are your thoughts?

Gil Imber said...

There is a video posted, but it does not contain the ejection or either of the calls, which is why I am not linking to it. Don't know if we will get more than that.


The video is Mattingly walking off the mound and on his way back to the dugout, he argues with Miller and then turns towards 3rd base. That is all we see.

Gil Imber said...

I'm guessing this will end up as an NEC since the ejection happened several pitches after the call.

Gil Imber said...

In re: 110 Layne 1;

After review, the Original Ruling has been affirmed in a 5-0-0 decision by the UEFL Appeals Board. Three Appeals Board members voted to confirm the Original Ruling while two elected to uphold it.

Majority Opinion, Turducken:
Confirm. Thud and pop. Glove doesn't pop [secure possession] before the BR's foot connects with the base.

Concurring Opinion, RichMSN:
The BR was safe, though. Confirm.

Concurring Opinion, BT_Blue:
Watching it on replay from one side looks like an out. From the other looks like safe. Thus I will chose to Uphold the original call of one Jerry "Silence is Golden" Layne.

Therefore, the Board affirms the Original Ruling.

Confirmed: RichMSN, yawetag, Turducken
Upheld: tmac, BT_Blue
Overturned: -
Deferred: -
Abstained: Gil (Posted Original Ruling), Jeremy (deployment)

Gil Imber said...

ABSOLUTELY - there is a BIG difference between 'You f***ing missed it' and 'You f***ed up' - the latter is much more personal and direct, And when you factor in that this was a real banger that was extremely close, that it was only the second inning and other stuff like Sciosia's rep, it was a no brainer EJ.


Layne is not exactly a hot headed ump - him and Davis might have the least ejections in the last five years, so when you compare his rep against Sciosia's, I think it is pretty clear what happened was enough.

Gil Imber said...

Yeah - totally agree RE: Sciossa - he is king rat and someone who definitely doesn't deserve any extra length on the leash. Dont get me wrong, I think the EJ was classic...just wanted to get thoughts on the "personalness" of what he said.

Gil Imber said...

Umpires are allowed to show up players and managers, but not the other way around?

Gil Imber said...

To me, this ejection is for arguing judgement calls and being a stupid manager...not any magic words (although they were likely there). The play is a banger...a tie at best. When a fielder bobbles a ball or makes a throw that creates a tough call that should be routine, everyone above 13&U knows that the umpire is going to call the runner safe in that situation. If the defense makes a great play and it is just as close, umpires tend to reward great defense. Tie goes to the umpire is exactly correct. When I get a manager out on me on plays like this, I just tell them that they are yelling at the wrong guy. If they don't "get" it, they might not be there much longer.

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